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Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by NullChronos on Saturday May 01, 2021 @11:36PM (#27012170)
Humans evolved colour vision to detect ripe fruit. Fruit has a, relatively, considerable amount of sugar. For such a substantial mutation, for which all of us share, it would seem counter-productive to evolve such a trait that harms us.
Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by kstenerud on Sunday May 02, 2021 @12:51AM (#27012456)
Earlier fruits didn't have anywhere near the sugar content of the cultivated ones today. In fact, many fruits of old were inedible (e.g. apples).

Sources of sugar such as sweet fruits and honey were rare delicacies, not daily occurrences.

Humans in various regions would have adapted over 1000 generations to better match their environment.

We live in a VERY different world now.

Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by 55555 on Sunday May 02, 2021 @01:59AM (#27012681)
This is a myth. I think 10,000 years ago there were only 2 million humans walking the earth. Fruit trees growing on uninhabited islands today have delicious sweet mangos. Fruits which exist but have never been cultivated at scale are also deliciously sweet.
Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by shlant on Sunday May 02, 2021 @08:56AM (#27014891)
yea just come to Borneo and try some of the native fruits to see how wrong that myth is ;)
Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by chmod600 on Sunday May 02, 2021 @01:52AM (#27012643)
While I'm sure not everyone had access to sweet fruit all the time, are you sure it was really so rare?

Fruit is meant to be eaten, so as long as plants have the spare energy, I don't see why they wouldn't make lots of appealing fruit.

Veggies would make more sense to be bitter.

Also, where did you get 1000 generations from? That's 20000 years in one place. It seems like a lot of humans would be a lot more mobile than that.

Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by yosito on Sunday May 02, 2021 @02:25AM (#27012786)
> Fruit is meant to be eaten

Meant by who? Evolution don't give a fuck...

Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by LegitShady on Sunday May 02, 2021 @03:00AM (#27012942)
I thought the whole evolutionary advantage was that animals spread the seeds around after eating the fruit, making survival much more likely. So not 'meant to be eaten' as in intentional choices, but meant to be eaten as in - this is why its an evolutionary advantage.
Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by johnchristopher on Sunday May 02, 2021 @04:38AM (#27013416)
By the plant. The plant that is driven by its genes to maximize its offspring.
Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by hoka-one-one on Sunday May 02, 2021 @01:50AM (#27012636)
Can you cite some sources please? I've tasted some very sweet wild berries.
Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by shlant on Sunday May 02, 2021 @08:58AM (#27014899)
Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by johnchristopher on Sunday May 02, 2021 @04:39AM (#27013420)
And I had some very sour apples so I think our anecdata cancel each other.
Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by RugnirViking on Sunday May 02, 2021 @08:06AM (#27014537)
The existance of fruit that isn't sweet is not a counter example to the fact that sweet fruit exists at all
Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by Broken_Hippo on Sunday May 02, 2021 @05:06AM (#27013563)
In addition to things other folks have said: Honey has existed for quite some time, because bees have existed for quite some time. Honey is pretty full of sugary goodness.
Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by shlant on Sunday May 02, 2021 @08:55AM (#27014881)
> Earlier fruits didn't have anywhere near the sugar content of the cultivated ones today

This is not substantiated[1][2]

1. https://twitter.com/Botanygeek/status/1149968041964396545

2. https://deniseminger.com/2011/05/31/wild-and-ancient-fruit/

Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by thatcat on Sunday May 02, 2021 @12:09AM (#27012280)
Or did plants evolve colored fruit because the plants with colored fruit were recognized most easily and thus spread the most by animals (including humans)?
Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by mattnewton on Saturday May 01, 2021 @11:44PM (#27012199)
My impression was that was just a theory based on the assumption that fruit was worth evolving to eat. It could be a happy accidental source with calories; or it could have been a great source of calories that was the best option at the time, but is no longer.
Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by guerrilla on Sunday May 02, 2021 @03:25AM (#27013037)
Fruit comes with fiberand vitamins. I suspect that's the real difference.
Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by pillefitz on Sunday May 02, 2021 @01:26AM (#27012573)
Not starving >> slight brain fog
Re:Comparative assessments of dietary sugars on cognitive pe... by jimmyneptune on Sunday May 02, 2021 @12:52AM (#27012464)
The fruit we have today is so much higher in sugar than back in times when the vision evolved.