Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs?
by mannerheim on Saturday May 01, 2021 @10:08PM
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> i have seen no-tip service implemented in a way that satisfied employees.
Have you seen no-tip service implemented with waitstaff earning as much as they did before?
> if tipped service was abolished tomorrow, employers would figure it out.
Of course they would figure it out if tipped service were abolished. But I am confident the outcome of whatever they figured out would result in lower take-home pay for waitstaff, as waitstaff would no longer be able to earn more money by switching to an establishment that allowed tips.
>Have you seen no-tip service implemented with waitstaff earning as much as they did before?
Yes. This entire thread is just me telling you repeatedly for twenty-four hours that equivalent compensation is the only thing that works.
Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs?
by mannerheim on Sunday May 02, 2021 @12:10AM
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I don't doubt that equivalent compensation is necessary to get waitstaff to stay. I do doubt that it's possible for a restaurant to switch to no-tipping, offer equivalent compensation, and pay the kitchen staff more equitably.
i am advocating that employers be held responsible for paying their employees. the current tipped service regime fails to attribute that responsibility to employers, and leaves employees vulnerable.
i have seen no-tip service implemented in a way that satisfied employees. i have seen also it done in a way that drove staff to quit, and in those cases the fault lay entirely with management trying to reduce compensation.
stop asking questions about a fantasy budget. i do not care. if tipped service was abolished tomorrow, employers would figure it out.