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Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by tmccrary55 on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @09:30AM (#26955552)
I'm really hoping Alder Lake or a similar AMD product gets PC closer to M1+ performance and battery consumption.

The M1 chip is amazing but I'm a tiling window manager man.

Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by anuragsoni on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @09:36AM (#26955626)
This will obviously not be comparable to a tiling window manager, but I've been pretty happy with Rectangle [1] on my mac. The keyboard mappings are pretty easy to configure and i've found it to work well even in multi monitor setups.

[1] https://github.com/rxhanson/Rectangle

Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by mwint on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @09:49AM (#26955782)
+1 for Rectangle; I've been using it ever since it was Spectacle. There's nothing I really miss about a proper tiling window manager (though I'm sure hardcore users would disagree)
Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by anuragsoni on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @12:43PM (#26958349)
> There's nothing I really miss about a proper tiling window manager (though I'm sure hardcore users would disagree)

Agreed. I mostly just needed the keyboard driven window snapping I was used to on Gnome and rectangle has filled than need 100%.

Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by volta83 on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @09:58AM (#26955897)
This is Mac OS:

- https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/jupmda/aquayabai_...

- https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/mvuplf/yabaimacos...

Its called Yabai (+ skhd): https://github.com/koekeishiya/yabai

That is, you can have a tilin WM today with all the advantages of running MacOS.

Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by tl on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @10:12AM (#26956096)
From your third link:

   System Integrity Protection needs to be (partially) disabled
   for yabai to inject a scripting addition into Dock.app for
   controlling windows with functions that require elevated
   privileges. This enables control of the window server, which
   is the sole owner of all window connections, and enables
   additional features of yabai.
The risk Apple kills yabai after you're adjusted to it is real.
Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by volta83 on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @10:16AM (#26956165)
> The risk Apple kills yabai after you're adjusted to it is real.

This holds for anything in the Apple ecosystem, up to Fortnite.

Yabai has been going for long, and every issue could be worked around relatively painlessly.

Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by matwood on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @11:24AM (#26957191)
> This holds for anything in the Apple ecosystem.

Holds for anything in almost any ecosystem. With that said, Apple has stated over and over the Mac will remain developer friendly. Being able to disable SIP, IMO is part of that.

Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by Lownin on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @12:27PM (#26958121)
I use yabai without disabling sip. You get most of the features. It's the first tiling WM I've used, so it's possible I'm missing something critical without disabling sip, but so far I'm quite happy with it despite whatever features are missing. ymmv, of course.
Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by athorax on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @12:17PM (#26957976)
FWIW, I run yabai without having disabled SIP and it works great. There is probably some subset of functionality I am missing out on, but it does what I need it to.
Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by kbd on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @10:28AM (#26956323)
It's not exactly a tiling window manager, but if you can program some simple Lua then Hammerspoon is a godsend. You can program anything any of the other window managers for Mac (like Rectangle, Spectacle, etc.) can do and have complete freedom to set up your own keyboard shortcuts for anything.

I have some predefined layouts[1] for my most common usage. So, one keyboard shortcut arranges the screen how I want, and I have other keyboard shortcuts[2] (along with using Karabiner Elements for a 'hyper' key) to open or switch to common apps.

[1] https://github.com/kbd/setup/blob/1a05e5df545db0133cf7b6f1bc...

[2] https://github.com/kbd/setup/blob/1a05e5df545db0133cf7b6f1bc...

Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by totalZero on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @09:48AM (#26955757)
Alder Lake will get closer because of the big.LITTLE structure, but I don't know if we will really see a contender from Intel until Meteor Lake. Lithography size gets too much attention for its nomenclature, but it actually matters for battery consumption and thermal management. Intel must execute flawlessly on 7nm and spend generously on capex to keep the ball rolling.
Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by reader_mode on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @09:33AM (#26955582)
It seems like apple is TSMC priority customer so I suspect they will always be a node ahead of AMD.

Doesn't matter if Apple does mobile and low power stuff exclusively, but if they can scale this design into a higher TDP/core count it's going to get interesting.

Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by shepherdjerred on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @11:26AM (#26957221)
Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by aryik on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @03:36PM (#26960439)
You’ve gotten plenty of recommendations, but I’ll add one for Magnet [1]. I’ve been using it for years, and I love it. One of the best software purchases I’ve ever made - small, lightweight, does exactly one thing and does it very well, and made by a small developer to boot.

[1] https://magnet.crowdcafe.com/index.html

Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by hajile on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @09:32AM (#26955566)
Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by ripply on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @09:47AM (#26955750)
I also am a tiling window manager man and tried that a few years back (as well as everything else on the market) when I had a mac from work, unfortunately, without real support from the OS, these are all just poor mans windows managers and can't compare to the real thing. I gave up trying to use any of them and ended up installing a virtual machine where I could actually use one.
Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by galangalalgol on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @09:59AM (#26955903)
I'm a gnome addict. If you ever asked yourself "who are they building this monstrosity for?". That would be me, it fits my exact preferences in a workflow out of the box. Unity irritates me to no end, and my wife's mac is almost unusable for me which she greatly appreciates.
Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by _joel on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @11:53AM (#26957630)
Not sure why you're being down voted, I use Amethyst and love it.
Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by zucker42 on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @10:21AM (#26956226)
Zen 4 will probably at least match the M1, but it will be a while before those chips come out and Apple will soon improve even more.
Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by intrasight on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @12:13PM (#26957921)
I have a feeling that Apple has pulled ahead and will stay ahead for a LONG time. They are extending their moat. And applying Mx to VR they will create a new moat.
Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by Synaesthesia on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @01:35PM (#26959007)
They started pulling ahead in the A6-A7 days and never looked back. Amazing progression.
Re:Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production fo... by ravi-delia on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @01:45PM (#26959115)
I'm curious to see if Zen 4 manages actually. It'll be an interesting datapoint as to what actually makes the M1 better.