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Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by decadentcactus on Friday June 24, 2011 @07:15PM (#2694324)
Odd video, but since we're on the topic...

After a trip to the US last year it was easy to see the US currency is awful. Coming from Aus where we have polymer banknotes, the paper was just terrible, and I wondered why they hadn't changed it yet.

And don't get me started on having $1 notes and 1c coins. Immediately found them (the coins at least) entirely pointless and just ignored them.

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by sliverstorm on Friday June 24, 2011 @07:24PM (#2694347)
I actually really like US currency. Most other currencies I've handled seem to be almost entirely paper, too large, occasionally different sizes... I really like uniformly sized bills that fit easily into a wallet, and the fabric in the bill seems to improve durability and lend a nicer texture.

Other currency just feels... cheap. No offense.

Agreed on pennies though. They had their place back when they were useful, but they are almost pointless now.

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by enko on Saturday June 25, 2011 @11:46AM (#2695869)
Other currency feels cheap? Are you kidding? Whenever I go the US I'm always reminded of how crappy the currency is. It looks and feels like it's printed on low grade recycled paper. Counterfeiting is such a problem that half the shops won't take 50s or 100s. And your wallet is perpetually stuffed with dirty, crumpled, near-useless $1 notes.

Imagine if you ordered a credit card from a bank and instead of receiving a shiny plastic card you got a low quality bit of printed cardboard. You'd think that was pretty low class, right? Well that's how I feel comparing the US and Aussie money in my wallet. The production quality on the American banknotes just does not match my expectations for a modern country in 2011.

Nothing against America of course, but I don't get the country's weird resistance to progress in certain areas, no matter how much of a no-brainer improvement that progress is. "Protect the greenback" - this is nothing but resistance to change, any change, no matter how beneficial. It's baffling how it can seemingly win the day, again and again. For me it is analogous to not upgrading to OSX 10.7 because you have nostalgic feelings about 10.6. I just cannot fathom how people get themselves into this state of mind.

OK, going rather off on a tangent there .. anyway other currencies do not look cheap : ) except the japanese yen, which IMO is the only major banknote series even worse than America's.

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by woobar on Saturday June 25, 2011 @12:13PM (#2695938)
Shop's won't take 50s and 100s for another reason. Almost nobody uses them within the borders of USA. The clerk at the store (often a kid from a high school) just don't know how they are supposed to look. ;-)
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by jshort on Saturday June 25, 2011 @03:29PM (#2696354)
It is also a pain to make change for a 50 or 100, one example would be buying a coffee from Tim Hortons with a 100.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by ghshephard on Saturday June 25, 2011 @02:25PM (#2696199)
50s aren't particularly common, but ATMs in Nevada and Reno disburse all large amounts using Benjamins. They are a pretty common bill. I'm guessing 99% of those clerks in a store would have no trouble recognizing one.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by redthrowaway on Friday June 24, 2011 @07:43PM (#2694393)
>I really like uniformly sized bills that fit easily into a wallet

You do realize your wallets are just smaller, right? Canadians don't go walking around with bills splayed out of our wallets, our wallets are just big enough to hold them.

Not sure which countries you're talking about in regards to the paper feel. I certainly noticed that in South America. Bolivia's currency, in particular, tended to be both in varying stages of decomposition and incredibly dirty. OTOH, the portrait on the 10 Boliviano note [1] was awesome enough to make up for any lack in paper quality.

[1]http://cdn2.iofferphoto.com/img/item/581/572/71/f7ce_1_b.JPG

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by jamesaguilar on Friday June 24, 2011 @10:28PM (#2694739)
Some countries (Malaysia, that I'm familiar with) actually have notes of a different physical size within the country. For example, the dimensions of the five ringitt and twenty ringitt note are different. I believe this is what the GP was referring to.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by ori_b on Saturday June 25, 2011 @01:35AM (#2695032)
Yes. It's an accessibility thing. It's easier to tell them apart if they're not the same size.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by redthrowaway on Saturday June 25, 2011 @02:20AM (#2695085)
So why wouldn't they just have the denomination embossed in braille?
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by nakkiel on Saturday June 25, 2011 @05:49AM (#2695356)
This implies actually knowing Braille. Even in very developed countries, not all blind or visually deficient people know Braille. Arguably, they should be pushed toward Braille rather than left in a "comfort" zone.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by to3m on Saturday June 25, 2011 @08:00AM (#2695493)
There are many ways for Braille to fail, particularly if embossed on a regularly-used banknote, and not everybody can use it. Differently-sized notes are much harder to break, and are potentially useful for everyone. Make the notes differently-coloured as well, and they're straightforwardly distinguished by most people, regardless of disability (or lack thereof), in a variety of situations.

(I would imagine Braille costs a fair bit to print, but banknotes are somewhat expensive to make - compared to most pieces of printed paper, I mean - so perhaps that wouldn't be an issue.)

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by Rexxar on Saturday June 25, 2011 @08:18AM (#2695516)
Because when you are eighty years old and you become progressively blind, it's difficult to learn a completely new 'tactile' language.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by jules on Saturday June 25, 2011 @09:16AM (#2695574)
The Euro has notes of different sizes too.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by dohkoxar on Saturday June 25, 2011 @01:21AM (#2695012)
Mexico has this too. 20 pesos bill, 50 pesos bill and 100 pesos bill are all three different.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by redthrowaway on Friday June 24, 2011 @11:38PM (#2694854)
Great Britain is the same way. I hate it.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by corin_ on Saturday June 25, 2011 @06:27AM (#2695403)
Aesthetically I love how the £50 note looks, in part thanks to its size, but it is really annoying. I guess most people don't often really come in contact with it, but anyone playing in a casino is likely to get them when cashing out, and they stick out of my wallet just a little, but enough to annoy me. And if you're cashing out a decent sum, asking for £20s isn't really an option,too many notes and the wallet won't even fold over.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by mahyarm on Saturday June 25, 2011 @01:37AM (#2695036)
And I'm pretty sure the euro too.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by decadentcactus on Friday June 24, 2011 @07:36PM (#2694374)
The different sizes, I'm not entirely sure but I thought they were for blind people... somehow. Or I might be making that up.

This from Wikipedia also explains my dislike for $1:

    Approximately 42% of all U.S. currency produced in 2009 were one-dollar bills.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by aaronbrethorst on Friday June 24, 2011 @08:39PM (#2694534)
That is correct. Differently sized bills enable blind users to differentiate them without having to rely upon the honesty of a cashier or a complicated filing scheme (and, additionally, allow sighted people to more-easily differentiate denominations in low-light conditions).

Edit: specifically, I learned about this from Gordon Legge[1], the chair of the psychology department at the University of Minnesota when I took a graduate level course on human-machine interaction from him back in 2002 or 2003. I lucked out and had a very forward-thinking advisor in the Computer Science department who let me apply Professor Legge's class to my Senior year electives ;)

[1] see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Legge and http://vision.psych.umn.edu/users/legge/ for more on him.

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by wmf on Friday June 24, 2011 @09:22PM (#2694624)
Different-sized notes also defeat counterfeiters who bleach smaller denominations and print a higher one.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by abstractbill on Friday June 24, 2011 @07:43PM (#2694392)
The different sizes make it possible to select a given denomination without either doing an O(n) lookup, or having to keep your wallet sorted.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by staunch on Friday June 24, 2011 @08:04PM (#2694435)
What sort of barbarian programmer doesn't sort his bills? Unthinkable.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by abstractbill on Friday June 24, 2011 @08:11PM (#2694462)
Having different sized bills is kind of like keeping your money in a visual/tactile hash-table. An array is the wrong data structure for your wallet!
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by Harkins on Saturday June 25, 2011 @12:48AM (#2694955)
The kind that profiles. The common case to optimize for may be insertion (especially with US $1 notes) rather than withdrawl. Semi-sorting by putting all change at the front while withdrawing for payment from the large bills at the rear is a decent tradeoff.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by underwater on Saturday June 25, 2011 @12:23PM (#2695956)
That's what I've found myself having to do. I've never had to have a sorting strategy before living in the US. The lack of distinction between notes is frustrating. I love it when Americans tell me they have colored notes too.

I still can't understand the preference for one dollar notes. Whenever I use a washing or vending machine I need to flatten out and align a dollar bill or insert dozens of quarters. Every few weeks I have to buy a couple of rolls of quarters from the bank. I paid a cashier with dollar coins yesterday and she did a double take and inspected each coin.

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by nakkiel on Saturday June 25, 2011 @05:53AM (#2695362)
You actually got me to realize how natural it is for me to sort my bank notes. I also put older notes on the top of the stack so that they get out of it first.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by varikin on Saturday June 25, 2011 @12:05PM (#2695919)
I can't be bothered to manually sort something. Tell me when I can just call wallet.sort().
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by whackedspinach on Friday June 24, 2011 @08:54PM (#2694561)
My grandfather was blind and had to resort to his family telling him what the denominations were beforehand and then he folded the bills into different sizes. Apparently one day a cashier attempted to scam him by claiming the bill he gave was too small. Different sized bills would be helpful in that situation.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by beloch on Friday June 24, 2011 @11:26PM (#2694838)
The old Canadian bills already had a braille-like pattern of raised dots that allow blind people to identify denominations without assistance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_currency_tactile_featu...

Hopefully the new bills will retain this feature.

As for the good ol' American green-back. Americans are excessively conservative when it comes to their currency. Just look at how long it took them to add colors other than green! At least we no longer have to put up with Americans mocking our currencies for being multi-colored monopoly bills. If americans are skeptical of polymer bills I can only take that as a good sign for these new Canadian bills.

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by jallmann on Friday June 24, 2011 @09:50PM (#2694673)
I usually have a bunch of $1 bills in my wallet. I'm not sure I'd want $1 coins, given that they're heavier than a paper bill and are more likely to get lost.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by redthrowaway on Saturday June 25, 2011 @02:26AM (#2695094)
Not at all. It's great, actually. My toonies, loonies, quarters, etc go in my change jar. My wallet is for bills (>= $5). I never carry change with me, and so don't have to worry about the hassle, and when I run out of money I have easily $50 in my change jar, which is enough for a frugal grocery trip. The proliferation of self-checkout stands also makes paying for $50 worth of groceries in coins slightly less embarrassing.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by grantbachman on Friday June 24, 2011 @07:56PM (#2694420)
Pennies do have their place though. As much as I dislike carrying them around, imagine not being able to divide up money past the 5 cent barrier. Every store would have to change their prices to the exact point at which the price of the item + sales tax equaled a multiple of 5 cents. Or they would keep the item prices the same, at which point customers might not like they are being charged, at the maximum, 4 cents more than they should. Those pennies add up.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by Aramgutang on Saturday June 25, 2011 @02:33AM (#2695105)
We don't need to "imagine" not being able to divide up money past the 5 cent barrier. Here in Australia, pennies have been abolished and everything is either rounded up or down to the nearest 5 cents.

New Zealand has already taken it one step further and has abolished 5-cent coins as well, rounding everything to the nearest 10. There's talk of doing that in Australia as well.

Keep in mind that the Aussie dollar is worth more than a US one, and Kiwi dollar is worth only 20% less, so we're talking similar amounts of value being rounded up/down.

Now, if only Australia hadn't compensated the abolishment of 1 and 2 cent coins with the GIANT 50 cent coins, my wallet would be very happy.

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by ghshephard on Friday June 24, 2011 @08:09PM (#2694453)
If you simply round to the nearest penny (3,4,5,6,7=5, and 8,9,0,1,2=0)on all transactions, then it evens out.

Those pennies really don't add up. See if you can find a store that won't add in the extra pennies to round you up, seriously - they certainly don't care.

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by mynameishere on Friday June 24, 2011 @09:16PM (#2694606)
A lot of fraud has been perpetuated by people shaving fractions of pennies off payrolls etc. Of course it adds up, and nobody's going to be rounding down anything. If a product costs 1.37, you will pay 1.37 with a credit card, and 1.40 with cash. And yeah it's the blue collar slob with two bankruptcies whose going to get his pennies shaved off.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by colanderman on Friday June 24, 2011 @10:00PM (#2694689)
No you won't. I never see charges with fractions of pennies when I use my card at the gas pumps (which charge 9/10¢ extra per gallon, remember); why would I see charges with fractions of nickels when pennies are gone?
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by nirvdrum on Friday June 24, 2011 @09:19PM (#2694617)
I'm pretty sure the IRS cares though. GAAP don't allow you to just adjust numbers.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by derobert on Friday June 24, 2011 @11:14PM (#2694827)
The IRS generally allows rounding to the nearest dollar on tax forms (at least individual and small business; not sure if large corporate are allowed to round even more). In fact, all the common tax software does so automatically; the only way to file a return to the cent is to do so by hand.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by colanderman on Friday June 24, 2011 @09:57PM (#2694684)
I'm pretty sure they don't, or else they'd be hounding you for the fractional pennies that you owe them (3/20 of every penny earned, remember!).
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by wisty on Saturday June 25, 2011 @05:52AM (#2695360)
I doubt they care, as long as you pay 10% (or whatever it is) of total taxable revenue. I think that's how it works in Australia, where we do round.

The tax man only cares about aggregates, unless they are in audit mode.

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by wisty on Friday June 24, 2011 @08:29PM (#2694505)
In Australia, the shops will say "4.99", and round the total (say $24.87) off. The occasional crazy old granny will go through the supermarket checkout multiple times, forcing them to round down multiple times, but it's not that common. Inflation means that even 5c coins are seen as an annoyance by shopkeepers.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by colanderman on Friday June 24, 2011 @09:54PM (#2694679)
> Every store would have to change their prices to the exact point at which the price of the item + sales tax equaled a multiple of 5 cents.

Um, you know that sales tax results in prices with fractional pennies? And that stores simply round the prices?

> Or they would keep the item prices the same, at which point customers might not like they are being charged, at the maximum, 4 cents more than they should.

You mean like how gas stations add on 9/10 of a cent to every gallon?

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by JoeAltmaier on Saturday June 25, 2011 @08:21AM (#2695518)
I have completely rid myself of coins. I leave them All in the penny tray. If they object, I give them to a friend I'm with, or finally toss them in the trash on the way out. At the drive-up, I toss them all in the donation slot.

No more pockets with a clump of metal in the bottom. No more fooling around trying to make a purchase come out even. Certainly no more counting them.

Its an amazing, liberating feeling! And it costs me far less than the time and effort I win back.

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by underwater on Saturday June 25, 2011 @12:29PM (#2695968)
Many supermarkets in the UK have donation jars at the checkout. I'd usually just leave all the coins I got in change. I haven't noticed that here in the US.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by jules on Saturday June 25, 2011 @09:18AM (#2695584)
Recently the in the Netherlands shops have started rounding the total cost to 5 cents. It saves work, nobody complains (even though euro cents are worth more than dollar cents).
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by kamagmar on Friday June 24, 2011 @09:57PM (#2694683)
We should get rid of the penny and the nickel, and then issue 10, 20, 50, 100, and 200 cent coins.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by jankassens on Saturday June 25, 2011 @08:44AM (#2695534)
Different size (and color) make it way easier to distinguish the different bills – especially for blind people.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by woodall on Friday June 24, 2011 @09:57PM (#2694682)
I do a bit of traveling and collect an awful lot of currency- http://i.imgur.com/CWkjX.jpg - So I'd also like to chime in on this. I like the US cotton bills as they get better with age. Of course, having crisp bills is nice, but nothing stays that way for ever. My polymer bills maintain creases and it makes them hard to sort. Where as the cotton bills age gracefully.

Check out the AUS 10, see how folded it looks? Now check out the $5 Military Payment certificate from around 1951. Just an observation.

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by andre on Friday June 24, 2011 @07:21PM (#2694339)
US paper currency is made up of 75% cotton and 25% linen. Source: http://www.cotton.org/pubs/cottoncounts/cotton-currency.cfm
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by decadentcactus on Friday June 24, 2011 @07:34PM (#2694368)
Ok.. you know what I mean :P It's more the fact that US notes tear extremely easily whereas polymer notes... you have to be pretty determined to damage one without scissors.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by run4yourlives on Friday June 24, 2011 @08:25PM (#2694494)
The worst possible thing about US money is that it is all the same colour. Whomever thought of that was obviously not working at maximum power.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by paxswill on Friday June 24, 2011 @09:02PM (#2694578)
The new bills ($100, $50, $20, $10, $5) are colored differently.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by underwater on Saturday June 25, 2011 @12:32PM (#2695972)
No they're not. They're green. It's so frustrating. Our Australian notes may look like Monopoly money but at least they are much easier to use.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by cbailey on Saturday June 25, 2011 @12:40AM (#2694940)
I'm American, and I have to agree with you. I travelled to Ireland last month and having 1 and 2 € coins was great. The different sized bills took a little getting used to, but even that was great because I could quickly tell them apart (along with the different colors). I'd like to see wider adoption of 1 and maybe 2 $ coins here sometime in the bear future.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by mahyarm on Saturday June 25, 2011 @01:38AM (#2695037)
I'm canadian, and I hate hate hate the $1 & $2 coins. (I don't like change in general) It's really nice to be able to just carry paper most of the time and get your change in mostly paper vs coins.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by pkulak on Friday June 24, 2011 @07:57PM (#2694424)
Yeah, the penny thing is annoying. 100 years ago a penny was worth about a dime today. At the very least we should make the nickel the smallest unit.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by warfangle on Friday June 24, 2011 @08:33PM (#2694516)
The weirdest thing about the penny is that it costs more than one cent to manufacture. Given, they last for quite a while.

That's why it's illegal to melt them down, and the US restricts exporting them.

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by rkowalick on Saturday June 25, 2011 @10:06AM (#2695667)
According to Wikipedia:

1982-present US pennies, which weigh 2.5 grams, are 97.5% zinc and 2.5% copper (coated over the zinc) by weight and have a metallurgical value of 64.376% of the face value

So, while the production costs are more than 1 cent, the actual value of the metal inside is still below 1 cent.

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by epochwolf on Friday June 24, 2011 @08:38PM (#2694525)
I think the quarter should be the smallest unit. And phase out dollar bills for coins.
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by fleitz on Friday June 24, 2011 @08:32PM (#2694511)
So what you're saying is that the penny got nickel and dime'd to it's current value?
Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by joezydeco on Friday June 24, 2011 @07:40PM (#2694383)
Maybe now that Ted Kennedy isn't around to get paid off by the New England paper mills, we'll see the idea of removing the paper USD$1 get some movement.

Although, we've botched up the dollar coin (by not removing the paper buck) so many times, it'll probably never happen.

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by dsl on Friday June 24, 2011 @08:35PM (#2694520)
Source please?

Only one mill in the world is allowed to produce the "paper" for US currency. Paper mills in general have equipment that works well for wood pulp paper, not the specialized equipment required to prepare and process the cotton based paper used in US dollars.

Because of the mandatory security costs involved and the fact they have to buy additional secret materials other than cotton and linen from the government, the profit margins on currency paper are razor thin. The only real benefit they get is a huge reference customer for their other secure paper business.

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by joezydeco on Friday June 24, 2011 @09:28PM (#2694633)
"Save the Greenback ultimately prevented a phaseout of the dollar bill thanks in part to Trent Lott (Mississippi's cotton industry makes the dollar's fabric) and Ted Kennedy (Massachusetts' Crane Paper Co. produces the dollar's paper)."

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-oe-stei...

"Kolbe and many other coin supporters said politics has also been a major obstacle. Prominent Massachusetts Democrats such as Financial Services ranking member Barney Frank and the late Sen. Edward Kennedy have been ardent defenders of Crane & Co., which manufactures the cotton-based paper used in U.S. currency."

"One-dollar bills represent nearly half of Crane’s currency business, and replacing the $1 note altogether would mean the loss of hundreds of jobs, the company said."

"Clearly they had an interest in maintaining the use of the paper,” Kolbe said. [Pay big attention here>>>] “Crane was the only company that could qualify as the producer.”

http://www.rollcall.com/news/Dollar-Bill-Coin-Coalition-Lobb...

And just to add to how much a paper dollar costs compared to a coin: A dollar bill costs $0.04 and is remade every 18 months. A dollar coin costs $0.08 and lasts 30 years.

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/03/lca_coins_notes.php

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by dsl on Saturday June 25, 2011 @06:25AM (#2695399)
Looks like a bunch of personal quotes from opinion pieces. Just because you don't agree with someone, dosen't mean they are fueled by some grand conspiracy. Occasionally people will just have a different view.

Crane & Co. has yearly revenues of about 300 million (revenues mind you, not profits). Less than a quarter of that is US currency paper. A 75 million dollar a year business is hardly worth it to invest in bribery or lobbying.

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by joezydeco on Saturday June 25, 2011 @08:14AM (#2695509)
You don't have a firm grasp of how American politics work. Every single member of Congress works to keep as much money and power in their district as they can. Retaining even a couple of hundred jobs in a given district can be a huge advantage in an election.

One doesn't need an op-ed to know that Congressmen lean to help companies in their districts that also make campaign contributions. Crane may be a small fish in the global paper mill business, but how much did they contribute to Kennedy's campaign fund over the last 5 decades?

Every other country on the planet has managed to smoothly eliminate the paper dollar/deutschmark/pound/etc when introducing an equivalent coin. All the claims of "oh, the people want to keep the dollar" are bullshit. Where's the documented public protest over keeping the paper dollar, other than the astroturfed group Save The Greenback?

"In 2006, then-Rep. Jim Kolbe (R) of Arizona, the country’s largest supplier of copper, introduced a bill that would have done away with the dollar, but it lay dormant in a Financial Services subcommittee. Kolbe, who introduced similar legislation AT LEAST FIVE TIMES throughout his career..."

The facts remain. Any legislative movement to eliminate the paper dollar has either been stalled in committee or never even mentioned in dollar coin legislation. Why is that?

If my beliefs are off base, let's hear your theory.

Re:Bank of Canada: The New $100 Note by cageface on Saturday June 25, 2011 @12:43AM (#2694946)
Inflation has been so rampant here in Vietnam that the smallest bill worth mentioning is 1,000 Dong and I hardly ever see coins at all. It's actually a lot more convenient not to have to separately juggle coins and bills though.