Re:Apple’s AirDrop leaks users’ PII, and there’s not much th...
by coolspot on Saturday April 24, 2021 @02:03PM
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Pavel Zhovner, creator of Flipper[1] had this cool post [2] in June 2020 on how he used Apple AirDrop for automated dating and fun. It included the phone number recovery component as well.
Re:Apple’s AirDrop leaks users’ PII, and there’s not much th...
by snotrockets on Saturday April 24, 2021 @05:00PM
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I don't know what the criminal threshold for stalking and harassment is.
But unlike Zhovner and yourself, I know what the normative threshold is (tip: it's DON'T THE FUCK).
Re:Apple’s AirDrop leaks users’ PII, and there’s not much th...
by luxuryballs on Saturday April 24, 2021 @07:10PM
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not much they can do? they could remove the feature, or why not just require some one-time iCloud handshake to happen to exchange anonymous identifiers once you confirm the contact? might gimp the feature somewhat but still, something can be done for a feature where air dropping to randos is just a cool party trick
Re:Apple’s AirDrop leaks users’ PII, and there’s not much th...
by Jyaif on Saturday April 24, 2021 @07:55PM
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> not much they can do?
If you had read the article you would have seen that the researchers implemented the same feature without leaking any data using "Private Set Intersections".
Re:Apple’s AirDrop leaks users’ PII, and there’s not much th...
by temp667 on Saturday April 24, 2021 @02:35PM
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What a bogus headline.
If you don't want to try to sync with others publically, don't airdrop in a place where you think someone is waiting to steal your information.
Reality though - your email and phone number is probably already out there.
I'm waiting for the headline - thieves who grab the phone you stick out in front of you while you walk / sit / eat / drink / ride bus / ride train - may get PII. They really can - and likely lots more than whatever apple is leaking.
No excuse for apple's idiocy, just some perspective perhaps. You can easily avoid this - I can't remember last time I used share pane in public.
Re:Apple’s AirDrop leaks users’ PII, and there’s not much th...
by joshmanders on Saturday April 24, 2021 @04:46PM
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> and location.
Ok? AirDrop doesn't work miles away from people, so if they got your email and phone already through AirDrop, how is having your location such emphasized?
Re:Apple’s AirDrop leaks users’ PII, and there’s not much th...
by randyrand on Sunday April 25, 2021 @12:29AM
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It shouldn't be too hard to understand...
The more trackers you place, the more location data you have on that person. You could literally put thousands around a city at many different stores, gas stations, parks, etc.
Re:Apple’s AirDrop leaks users’ PII, and there’s not much th...
by innagadadavida on Sunday April 25, 2021 @12:54AM
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The article is sparse on how they implemented. Do you need a Mac/iPhone or can this thing run on very cheap hardware that can be deployed at scale?
Given they found this almost two years ago, I wonder if there is an actual attack or exploit that has been deployed or is this one of those attacks that don’t leave the lab environment?
Re:Apple’s AirDrop leaks users’ PII, and there’s not much th...
by GeekyBear on Saturday April 24, 2021 @03:35PM
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The number of people transferring files in public is so limited that it would be much more simple to buy the marketing data for everyone in a given city.
Re:Apple’s AirDrop leaks users’ PII, and there’s not much th...
by lathiat on Sunday April 25, 2021 @02:24AM
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Unfortunately while you shouldn't try to sync with others publically is a good theory, in the current implementation just opening the share sheet to share via messages or some other app will trigger AirDrop discovery. So you'd need to actively turn the feature off.
In some ways it seems having the "Contacts only" mode enabled is almost worse than having it set to everyone. The obvious problem with having it set to everyone though is you can easily get airdropped things by people around you. Which can be a great joke but since it displays preview of image receives can also be used in harmful or abusive ways.
1 - https://flipperzero.one/
2 - https://m.habr.com/ru/company/ruvds/blog/505384/
If you had read the article you would have seen that the researchers implemented the same feature without leaking any data using "Private Set Intersections".
If you don't want to try to sync with others publically, don't airdrop in a place where you think someone is waiting to steal your information.
Reality though - your email and phone number is probably already out there.
I'm waiting for the headline - thieves who grab the phone you stick out in front of you while you walk / sit / eat / drink / ride bus / ride train - may get PII. They really can - and likely lots more than whatever apple is leaking.
No excuse for apple's idiocy, just some perspective perhaps. You can easily avoid this - I can't remember last time I used share pane in public.
This would be very useful info for marketing campaigns. Automated emails to people that go to specific stores, parks, etc.
Ok? AirDrop doesn't work miles away from people, so if they got your email and phone already through AirDrop, how is having your location such emphasized?
"They can see you, gasp!"
The more trackers you place, the more location data you have on that person. You could literally put thousands around a city at many different stores, gas stations, parks, etc.
Given they found this almost two years ago, I wonder if there is an actual attack or exploit that has been deployed or is this one of those attacks that don’t leave the lab environment?
In some ways it seems having the "Contacts only" mode enabled is almost worse than having it set to everyone. The obvious problem with having it set to everyone though is you can easily get airdropped things by people around you. Which can be a great joke but since it displays preview of image receives can also be used in harmful or abusive ways.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26889665