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Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by oblio on Friday April 23, 2021 @09:52AM (#26914766)
> This makes M1 type chips really interesting for any manufacturer who want to make devices that span a huge scale of performance requirements, from slow kiosks performance range to the decent laptop range.

This is purely theoretical. Apple will <<never>> sell its chips to other companies.

So if you were expecting Apple Silicon on its own to start a revolution, that's never going to happen.

Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by zerkten on Friday April 23, 2021 @10:52AM (#26915311)
The poster stated "M1 type chips". That is not setting an expectation that Apple will sell their chips.

Microsoft already have a Surface product with an ARM chip that didn't get updated in this round AFAIK. It already has solid ARM performance, but it's not as good as M1. It was let down with how well x86 emulation worked, but there seem to have been improvements including x64 support. If they focused on improvements with the chip design then they could see improvements along the lines of Apple. It's a question of whether the investment is made rather than whether it's possible.

Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by foobiekr on Friday April 23, 2021 @08:13PM (#26920800)
While a lot of the M1 advantage over Intel and AMD is process node, the advantage over the rest of the ARM and RISCV ecosystem is substantially more than that.

The team that built the M1 is a collection of top tier ASIC designers that came from several acquisitions, from PA Semi forward. The Qualcomms and Caviums and so on just aren't in the same league. Lord spare me another tarball of garbage and random kernel patches called an "SDK." They don't really have the same bench and don't pay top dollar and it shows.

It is unlikely that there will be an M1 equivalent from any of those guys. Intel? AMD? Absolutely.

Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by zucker42 on Friday April 23, 2021 @11:13AM (#26915540)
No other company has the volume to economically build on TSMC's leading node.
Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by ragnarok451 on Friday April 23, 2021 @02:24PM (#26917592)
Honest question - why not?
Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by cercatrova on Friday April 23, 2021 @03:35PM (#26918327)
Why would they? Apple likes vertical integration, it's not advantageous to them to sell off a differentiating part of their product, the hyped processor, so that others can use it, often competitors.

Back in the 90s, when Jobs was gone, Apple licensed its OS and almost went bankrupt as you could simply get a cheaper clone of Apple's computers with the OS on them. They won't repeat that mistake again.