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Re:Grafana, Loki, and Tempo will be relicensed to AGPLv3 by foerbert on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @07:10PM (#26883198)
The whole issue arose from the claim that the Timescale license was designed to be less restrictive then the AGPL.

That's why Open Source came up in the first place - pointing out that one of the basic reasons for the Timescale license to exist in the first place is to restrict one of the major reasons Open Source licenses exist.

Re:Grafana, Loki, and Tempo will be relicensed to AGPLv3 by cevian on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @11:12PM (#26885022)
That only makes sense if you agree with the open source foundation definition of restrictive. I don't. I think the ability to freely link to whatever other software is much more important to most people than the ability to run a *aaS. We never made any claims about open source only our opinion about what restrictive means to us.
Re:Grafana, Loki, and Tempo will be relicensed to AGPLv3 by foerbert on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @11:27PM (#26885113)
That's fine. I wasn't taking a position. I was explaining why people were using Open Source as a comparison.

There were also no claims about whatever definition of restrictive you were using. It was just a short statement that the Timescale license was designed to be less restrictive than the AGPL. You can't really be that surprised when somebody comes along and starts judging it by Open Source standards after that, can you?

Re:Grafana, Loki, and Tempo will be relicensed to AGPLv3 by cevian on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @11:27AM (#26890924)
That's fair but I was more replying to the OP that said "but it shouldn't be called an Open Source license". The point is we don't call our license Open Source.

Comparisons to Open Source and discussions of the pros and cons of both approaches are, of course, fair.

Re:Grafana, Loki, and Tempo will be relicensed to AGPLv3 by keonix on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @05:39AM (#26887314)
AGPL license clearly gives you the ability to freely link with whatever software you want. The only requirement is to share it with your customers. Following your logic it could be said that MIT licensed software could not be freely used because it requires preservation of original copyright notice
Re:Grafana, Loki, and Tempo will be relicensed to AGPLv3 by DetroitThrow on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @08:05AM (#26888483)
>That only makes sense if you agree with the open source foundation definition of restrictive.

I think Timescale employees should remember to preface "This is our belief on the definition of restrictive" when describing the license as more open than open source licenses, given much of the community might disagree (sometimes vehemently) about that take.

Re:Grafana, Loki, and Tempo will be relicensed to AGPLv3 by akulkarni on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @12:44PM (#26892026)
Totally fair. My initial comment was a little rushed. :-)
Re:Grafana, Loki, and Tempo will be relicensed to AGPLv3 by detaro on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @08:07AM (#26888505)
Or scope it as "less restrictive for most users" or something along those lines.
Re:Grafana, Loki, and Tempo will be relicensed to AGPLv3 by cevian on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @11:34AM (#26891028)
That may indeed have been more accurate. But this is a HN comment thread after all, we can't capture all subtleties of a very complex debate. :)