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Re:The “Granny Knot” by lwansbrough on Monday April 19, 2021 @04:52PM (#26867845)
I did this too and also momentarily forgot how to tie my shoes! (Forgot the new method, and the old method.) Now I have saved literally minutes of my life on shoe tying.
Re:The “Granny Knot” by tomcam on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @07:11AM (#26873091)
I want to say sincerely that this exchange is life-changing. I'm old and in rapidly declining physical health. I feel like my brain is working just fine, but the fact of my always-bad memory has been leaving me with the existentially terrifying question "is that going too?"

I realize now I've been having these incidents all my life. Recently I've had the niggling sensation that maybe it's just self-delusion. Nope! Been going on the whole time, just like the lot of you. Thanks for sharing, and I mean that.

Re:The “Granny Knot” by laurieg on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @12:34AM (#26870709)
A few weeks ago I went to play a piece on the piano. I completely blanked, tried to piece together the intro by ear but wasn't really getting anywhere. My teacher played the intro and then boom, the whole thing was back under my fingers.

The brain really is fascinating.

Re:The “Granny Knot” by Cthulhu_ on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @03:55AM (#26871881)
I went to the shops yesterday and forgot the PIN code for both my cards. I've been typing one of those in for nearly 20 years. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

My mum frequently punches in her postal code instead.

Re:The “Granny Knot” by mkesper on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @05:33AM (#26872517)
Try to remember the finger movements.
Re:The “Granny Knot” by sdeframond on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @06:31AM (#26872864)
Works well until you encounter a new keypad layout (eg when going abroad). I locked my card once like this although I had been typing the code for years before.
Re:The “Granny Knot” by waterhouse on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @05:02PM (#26881617)
Android has this "draw a path through some dots in a grid" analogue to a PIN code. On the boot screen, the grid is a somewhat different size than on the unlock screen. This defeated my muscle memory, and my conscious memory had lost its backup.
Re:The “Granny Knot” by dkersten on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @12:38AM (#26870738)
This happens to me all the time when playing guitar. I could be there blankly strumming wondering what the notes were, but the moment I get something right, I’ve got it. Or sometimes it’s that I can’t remember the rhythm at all and I try to hum it or anything at all that might help me remember and once I’ve got the first few moments it comes flooding back.

It doesn’t help that I’m relatively new to guitar.

Re:The “Granny Knot” by virgoerns on Thursday April 22, 2021 @04:32AM (#26900283)
> It doesn’t help that I’m relatively new to guitar.

I've played for 16 years and I still have these moments. But thankfully it's so satisfying when the music finally kicks in.

Re:The “Granny Knot” by wcrossbow on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @04:15AM (#26872033)
Same thing! I had played the piece 5 minutes before the lesson and right after the lesson warmup (I warmup before the lesson so that my teacher thinks I'm better than I really am...ego..self denial...whatever) he asks for the piece and I can't play beyond the first bar.
Re:The “Granny Knot” by elliekelly on Monday April 19, 2021 @07:15PM (#26868909)
Is there a word or a phrase for this phenomenon? When something becomes a habit requiring no thought at all and then, when forced to actually think about it, the brain draws a complete blank?
Re:The “Granny Knot” by kibwen on Monday April 19, 2021 @09:24PM (#26869762)
Re:The “Granny Knot” by sebmellen on Monday April 19, 2021 @10:56PM (#26870224)
What a great poem:

“A centipede was happy – quite!

Until a toad in fun

Said, "Pray, which leg moves after which?"

This raised her doubts to such a pitch,

She fell exhausted in the ditch

Not knowing how to run.“

Re:The “Granny Knot” by davidgh on Monday April 19, 2021 @11:25PM (#26870365)
Check out the Backwards Brain Bicycle. Lots of fun.

https://youtu.be/MFzDaBzBlL0

Re:The “Granny Knot” by shard on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @12:01PM (#26891404)
Isn't it just muscle memory? Like how it is difficult to switch back and forth between a Qwerty keyboard and a Dvorak keyboard, except with the addition of balance thrown in.
Re:The “Granny Knot” by qwertox on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:51AM (#26871484)
This is worth a watch, from Smarter Every Day.
Re:The “Granny Knot” by mindfulmark on Monday April 19, 2021 @07:33PM (#26869062)
Personally I call this « playing piano », as I’m not sure I’ve ever gotten passed this stage when practicing..
Re:The “Granny Knot” by sixhobbits on Monday April 19, 2021 @07:41PM (#26869114)
In classical music at least it's often referred to as a "memory lapse"
Re:The “Granny Knot” by Andrex on Monday April 19, 2021 @08:42PM (#26869492)
Your comment got me looking into the phenomenon, and I found this great article: https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1994-07-17-19941981...

From 1994!

Re:The “Granny Knot” by coyotespike on Monday April 19, 2021 @08:51PM (#26869549)
Wonderful article, great find!

And I like being reminded of the great pressure many creative spirits feel. It's serious business, managing pressure and also doing your work.

Re:The “Granny Knot” by ie21 on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @06:43AM (#26872912)
Would love to read if anyone has it mirrored? Looks like the original article isn't available for EU market.
Re:The “Granny Knot” by nkurz on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @11:05AM (#26890605)
Maybe one of these two will work:

https://outline.com/SeEEHt

https://archive.is/D05nu

For the future, you can usually create these for yourself by going to top of the sites that I linked.

Re:The “Granny Knot” by ie21 on Thursday April 22, 2021 @05:05AM (#26900494)
Works great! Also on other sites, thanks for the tip.
Re:The “Granny Knot” by arc-in-space on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @04:31AM (#26872148)
Some refer to it as an effect of muscle memory. Something you can do effortlessly, but can't actually describe how to another person.
Re:The “Granny Knot” by HPsquared on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @04:05AM (#26871950)
That and, apologies in advance, the phenomenon of 'manual breathing'.
Re:The “Granny Knot” by __mharrison__ on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @12:08AM (#26870567)
Emacs!