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Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by pcf on Friday April 16, 2021 @05:38PM (#26839355)
On Facebook, you now can't post the link to this New York Post article: https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/inside-blm-co-founder-patrisse...

FB will also prevent you from posting the Newsweek article which describes how the platform is blocking the New York Post article. Same link as in the title: https://www.newsweek.com/facebook-prevents-sharing-new-york-...

Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by AnimalMuppet on Friday April 16, 2021 @05:56PM (#26839492)
Yes, but will they prevent you from posting a link to the HN discussion of the Newsweek article about them blocking the NY Post article?

Is it possible that Facebook is a big enough share of the internet that they can block the Streisand Effect? My money is on "no".

Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by jasonfarnon on Friday April 16, 2021 @07:38PM (#26840235)
Maybe the Streisand effect is imaginary. Ie you don't know how many stories are successfully suppressed. Just bc barbara streisand bungled concealing something, doesn't mean something as sophisticated as fb, decades later, is as inept. Of course I'd like to think the Streisand effect is real, but I don't think we have any data.
Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by ISL on Friday April 16, 2021 @09:03PM (#26840737)
The Streisand effect does not apply if Streisand controls a town square.
Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by MikeUt on Friday April 16, 2021 @05:58PM (#26839509)
The Streisand effect only happens if you find out about the censorship. There's a million ways to reduce the reach of a story covertly.
Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by nitrogen on Friday April 16, 2021 @06:56PM (#26839939)
As one example of how to slow a story: back when Wikileaks was first really trending, Facebook would sometimes just take a really long time to submit a post, or simply error out, if you tried to post a URL from Wikileaks.
Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by commandlinefan on Friday April 16, 2021 @06:29PM (#26839766)
> posting a link to the HN discussion

Well... contentious stories get removed from here, too. This is a topic that gets contentious.

Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by akvadrako on Saturday April 17, 2021 @01:38AM (#26841834)
Such as?

I assume you don't mean flagging, since those are not removed, just frozen.

Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by seattledev on Saturday April 17, 2021 @07:14PM (#26848265)
There are occasions when submissions are entirely removed and don't even retain the title or URL. I know this because I use hckrnews.com as my HN front page
Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by akvadrako on Sunday April 18, 2021 @07:03AM (#26851457)
Yes, I do too. But can you give an example of something that was removed which wasn't garbage?
Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by Causality1 on Friday April 16, 2021 @06:51PM (#26839911)
Oh yeah. Every time someone posts an article covering that GPT HN fiasco it gets flagged and removed almost immediately.
Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by strombofulous on Friday April 16, 2021 @07:01PM (#26839976)
The what?
Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by andrew_v4 on Friday April 16, 2021 @07:22PM (#26840104)
I had to look it up too, I had forgotten about it as it was not very interesting: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24164470

Note that the link is to an article on HN, not flagged, and the comments pretty clearly debunk the article's claims. TLDR, author wrote some clickbait headlines and used gpt3 to fill in the articles, with an unspecified amount of editing, then some of them got onto the front page of HN and he wrote an article about that.

Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by 1cvmask on Friday April 16, 2021 @08:06PM (#26840399)
Many stories get flagged on HN as well and I assume for different reasons. Here is one flagged from an hour ago:

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/journalists-learning-they-s...

I assumed it was worthy of discussion given the whole censorship debate and concepts of censorship like AI moderation or misinformation or disinformation.

Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by edoceo on Friday April 16, 2021 @07:03PM (#26839991)
what's that one about?
Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by cryptonector on Saturday April 17, 2021 @12:55AM (#26841670)
This one is flagged, for example.
Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by joshuakelly on Sunday April 18, 2021 @11:26AM (#26853268)
> Is it possible that Facebook is a big enough share of the internet that they can block the Streisand Effect? My money is on "no".

The co-ordinated efforts of a small number of corporate actors probably is. We live in a gov-valley-sov-corp media ecology with fairly sophisticated mechanisms of message control. Maybe the old netheads were wrong about streisand effect - maybe that was a temporary material condition.

Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by kebman on Saturday April 17, 2021 @03:20AM (#26842291)
This is completely outrageous. It's clearly illegal in my country per Norwegian Constitution §100, and I suspect it's illegal in quite a few other European countries too, wherever they have a working defence for freedom of speech, and not least presumably private conversations. (Because it's not so private anymore once third parties interfere in what you're allowed to share among grown ups.)
Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by reaperducer on Friday April 16, 2021 @07:20PM (#26840096)
On Facebook, you now can't post the link to this New York Post article... FB will also prevent you from posting the Newsweek article which describes how the platform is blocking the New York Post article."

And amazingly, there are Facebook employees on HN all the time who can't understand why people hate Facebook.

I recently spent time with a couple of relatives who only get news from Facebook. I suspect there are millions of other people who do the same. (Because it's free and if it's on the internet, it must be true!)

This illustrates that they only know about the things that Facebook wants them to know.

Re:Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-f... by mbg721 on Saturday April 17, 2021 @01:43PM (#26846004)
But that isn't the reason for most of the Facebook hate, is it? I thought it was more "I just want my cousin's baby pictures, and you're spamming my feed with outrage porn." The people who actually want to use Facebook for news at all know the dumpster-fire they're going to get.