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Re:Opting Your Website Out of Google's FLoC Network by dcow on Thursday April 15, 2021 @11:54PM (#26829262)
Presumably things that promote a healthy internet also benefit website owners since their sites exist on the internet.
Re:Opting Your Website Out of Google's FLoC Network by ehsankia on Friday April 16, 2021 @02:18AM (#26830223)
That sounds like people arguing that nuclear energy is a bad solution to climate change because it's not perfect and technically not renewable.

- FLoC is still far better than third party cookies

- As much as we'd love to live in a world without advertising, 95% of the internet wouldn't exist without it.

- If we are going to have advertising, I'd much rather have FLoC than third party cookies

Re:Opting Your Website Out of Google's FLoC Network by heavyset_go on Friday April 16, 2021 @03:03AM (#26830515)
> FLoC is still far better than third party cookies

I don't care because my browser blocks third party cookies.

Re:Opting Your Website Out of Google's FLoC Network by zentiggr on Friday April 16, 2021 @11:19AM (#26834937)
Your last point would more accurately be stated as "If we are going to have tracking, ..."

To which I say, let's not have tracking at all, instead of choosing between crappy cookies and even more potentially crappy FLoC.

Reverting to advertising without tracking is entirely possible, it just disenfranchises a whole host of greedy manipulative jerks who will do anything for a buck.

Re:Opting Your Website Out of Google's FLoC Network by mippenhappen on Friday April 16, 2021 @03:15AM (#26830595)
>95% of the internet wouldn't exist without it.

And that would properly be a good thing.

Re:Opting Your Website Out of Google's FLoC Network by syntactic-sugar on Friday April 16, 2021 @07:37AM (#26832620)
- FLoC is still far better than third party cookies I'd take issue with 'far' better, and it has the additional problem of turning the privacy issue in to a moving target. How long did it take to get the wider public and legislators moving on tracking cookies? Now it's a similar issue, just it's called FLoC and its code on your own machine doing the spying.

- A world without advertising Super disagree that this at all an issue. Most of the revenue that gets eliminated is for stuff that people wont pay for anyway, and I question its value if that's the case. Personally I think all advertising is an utter blight, and couldn't care less if it goes away forever and takes its revenue with it. It will be a struggle for a while, and many small sites will fall. The stuff that will be left is stuff that's hopefully worth the money people pay for it, or run as a passion project.

Re:Opting Your Website Out of Google's FLoC Network by dcow on Friday April 16, 2021 @09:33AM (#26833659)
Advertising without any sort of tracking just based purely on inbound search queries is still really good advertising and better than older ways. What most people don't want is a profile following you around everywhere.
Re:Opting Your Website Out of Google's FLoC Network by ehsankia on Saturday April 17, 2021 @04:14PM (#26847087)
For Google Search it is, that doesn't apply to the millions of websites that aren't search engines and require monetization to be profitable.
Re:Opting Your Website Out of Google's FLoC Network by radiator on Friday April 16, 2021 @02:34AM (#26830347)
But even if it were so, what would be the problem if 95% of the internet wouldn't exist?
Re:Opting Your Website Out of Google's FLoC Network by encryptluks2 on Friday April 16, 2021 @12:41AM (#26829556)
Does Firefox sending URLs you visit to a an external service not constitute as unhealthy?
Re:Opting Your Website Out of Google's FLoC Network by _underfl0w_ on Friday April 16, 2021 @12:51AM (#26829630)
"What about $otherthing?"

Neither is good, but that doesn't necessarily make the topic you're attempting to pivot to relevant in this situation.

Also, Cloudflare (provider of the external service you mention, assuming you're talking about DNS-over-HTTPS) definitely isn't Google. At least not yet.

Re:Opting Your Website Out of Google's FLoC Network by encryptluks2 on Friday April 16, 2021 @06:03AM (#26831872)
No, I'm talking about their browser protection feature that is supposed to check for malware and unsafe domains.
Re:Opting Your Website Out of Google's FLoC Network by dcow on Friday April 16, 2021 @09:29AM (#26833618)
Doesn't that use a bloom filter? So in reality it’s very few if any of the urls you visit are actually sent anywhere.
Re:Opting Your Website Out of Google's FLoC Network by dcow on Friday April 16, 2021 @12:44AM (#26829576)
You can opt out of that (or is it opt in now), too.
Re:Opting Your Website Out of Google's FLoC Network by encryptluks2 on Friday April 16, 2021 @12:46AM (#26829590)
You can opt out with Chromium too