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Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by dustinmoris on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:37AM (#26737941)
> but everyone is apparently cool with that because "kids don't get sick from it" (ignoring any long-covid repercussions, which seems foolish to me)

If kids don't get sick, then they don't get sick. What's foolish or difficult to understand about this? BTW when someone says "kids don't get sick from it" they don't talk in absolute terms. Kids also can get cancer, yet we are not screening their prostate yearly like we do with old men.

Wanting to harm children's future, education, development and mental health because out of your own fear is rather distasteful.

Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by Kaze404 on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:38AM (#26737961)
Kids don't get sick but they can still transmit the virus to the adults that care for them.
Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by dustinmoris on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:40AM (#26737977)
...which have been vaccinated by now (unless they are young), so why penalise kids for a risk assessment which doesn't exist anymore?
Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by loeg on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:48AM (#26738054)
You know most parents with "kids" are under 50, right? OP is complaining that the vaccination rate <50 is too low.
Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by Kaze404 on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:58AM (#26738145)
What's your solution to kids that have young parents? Every child of people 50+ years old go back to school, and the others stay behind?
Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by nicoburns on Thursday April 08, 2021 @09:10AM (#26738239)
Young parents are also much less likely to get severely ill than older parents.
Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by Kaze404 on Thursday April 08, 2021 @09:20AM (#26738347)
So the ones that do get infected and die are just part of the sacrifice?
Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by samr71 on Thursday April 08, 2021 @01:17PM (#26741351)
People die of the seasonal flu all the time too. We don't shut life down over it. Covid is much much worse than the seasonal flu for many people. For others, it's less dangerous. That said, people still get hit with it.

You can't get to 0

Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by Kaze404 on Thursday April 08, 2021 @07:29PM (#26745044)
I don't understand the point of your comment if you admit that Covid is much worse than the seasonal flu. We don't shut life down over the season flu, but we might for a much more dangerous disease. That's the whole point.
Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by alistairSH on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:53AM (#26738112)
That statement is demonstrably false. UK is only at 8% vaccination rate overall. 60% of eligible adults have had a single dose, but that 60% is heavily biased to the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions.
Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by nicoburns on Thursday April 08, 2021 @09:11AM (#26738252)
The single dose has been shown to provide good protection in the short term, so the 60% number is more relevant than the 8% one. Although percentage of total population rather than adult population would probably be a more accurate representation.
Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by input_sh on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:48AM (#26738058)
Because vaccines are never 100% effective, and there are plenty of people who legitly can't receive one due to other medical conditions.
Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by incrudible on Thursday April 08, 2021 @09:04AM (#26738189)
An honest question: At what point should we stop trading the healthy development of children for a reduction of risk for certain vulnerable parts of the population?
Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by input_sh on Thursday April 08, 2021 @12:05PM (#26740446)
When everyone that wants a vaccine gets one (well, two).

And I mean everyone in the world unless we a) close the borders completely for absolutely everything, or b) implement covid passports.

Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by ghaff on Thursday April 08, 2021 @09:54AM (#26738678)
The general decision seems to be at the point when vaccines are widely available.
Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by simonh on Thursday April 08, 2021 @10:21AM (#26739017)
Which is in just a few months.
Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by ghaff on Thursday April 08, 2021 @10:49AM (#26739408)
In some countries at any rate.
Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by Denvercoder9 on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:40AM (#26737985)
> If kids don't get sick, then they don't get sick.

There's no data about prevalence of long-term symptoms after an infection yet, regardless of whether people show immediate symptoms.

Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by logicchains on Thursday April 08, 2021 @09:10AM (#26738244)
>There's no data about prevalence of long-term symptoms after an infection yet

There's also no data about the prevalence of long-term symptoms of the covid vaccines, since it's literally impossible to test the 2-5 year effects of something that's only existed for one year, so by your logic should non-at-risk populations avoid taking that?

Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by dustinmoris on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:42AM (#26738000)
If the fear is long-term damage, then we must stay locked down and isolated for another two years to first wait for any real long term damage to show and then study it. With this mentality, what's the point of life? Might as well commit suicide, especially those grandparents which might not survive until then anyway.
Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by Denvercoder9 on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:49AM (#26738061)
It's not a binary choice between opening up now and staying in lockdown forever. We could wait a bit longer with opening up till more people are vaccinated, to reduce the risk of getting an infection for everyone (don't forget vaccines aren't 100% effective). We also could decide the immediate harm of lockdown outweighs the risk of long-term effects.

It's a complicated situation, and there's likely no perfect answer. However, it's definitely not as black-and-white as "if they don't get sick, they don't get sick", and such reductionist statements don't help make an informed decision.

Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by dfgdghdf on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:56AM (#26738136)
Depends if the lock-downs are at your doorstep or at the border. The UK had a few opportunities to pursue a zero covid strategy but squandered them all.