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Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by candiddevmike on Monday March 29, 2021 @07:09PM (#26629476)
Mikrotik user here, I find their software really clunky and buggy.

My dream networking gear for my house is whitebox switches that I can run Debian on, but I can't find any at an economical price. Anyone know of 5-12 port ARM switches?

Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by bentcorner on Monday March 29, 2021 @08:03PM (#26629853)
I've heard good things about PC Engines, although they don't have that many ports: https://pcengines.ch/apu4d4.htm

But if you're doing this for a home network you don't really need that much bandwidth out of the home and can use the 2-port one with whatever switch you want.

I ran openwrt on a laptop in a one-armed router network configuration and it worked quite well.

Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by anyfoo on Monday March 29, 2021 @08:06PM (#26629874)
I have a pcengines box as my router/gateway (with OpenBSD, works absolutely wonderfully), but I need access points as well. Especially because I cannot lay cables in this house, so my home office is relying on a wireless uplink.

Got any recommendations for access points that support wireless uplinks? My Unifi ones unfortunately tend to reboot frequently, sometimes needing manual readoption/full reset. It's bad if it happens during a meeting.

I don't think I need many bells and whistles, at this point I'm just content if it's stable.

Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by torwayburger on Monday March 29, 2021 @08:34PM (#26630057)
Mikrotik wireless wire? Sub $200 wireless link. It's a pair, not an ap. Anyway - it does what it says on the tin.
Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by anyfoo on Monday March 29, 2021 @08:37PM (#26630078)
Thanks, but will this work through walls? (The wooden kind you get in Californian houses, not concrete or anything.)
Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by torwayburger on Monday March 29, 2021 @08:39PM (#26630091)
No sorry it does need line of sight :/
Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by torwayburger on Monday March 29, 2021 @09:36PM (#26630434)
I didn't even think of it when I wrote the original reply, but if the locations share power grid wires internally you can always g.hn over that copper to get the connection through the wall.
Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by anyfoo on Monday March 29, 2021 @09:43PM (#26630481)
Ah, I thought about that as well, but I hear conflicting things about what that means for ham radio. I don't have a license yet, but certainly plan to have one.

Someone else suggested Ruckus in another subthread here. If they support wireless downlinks, that may be a good option.

EDIT: If it's known that (quality) power line stuff does not cause interference, it does become a good option.

Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by hansel_der on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @03:38AM (#26632064)
haven't noticed any interference from powerline stuff, but the link-quality is definitely hampered by interference from other stuff (ie. temporary packet loss when some electric motor starts).

i consider it somewhere in between wifi and an ethernet cable in terms of quality.

Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by d00bianista on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @02:06AM (#26631628)
Interesting, Winbox or WebFig/CLI? I find this clunkyness to be a good thing, compared to shiny and inflexible products. I have some experience of quite a few brands and so far Mikrotik is one of the most coherent and unified experiences. WebFig and CLI are the same across devices running RouterOS. Winbox is not my bag though.

RouterOS is not perfect but it does most things without being overly complicated. It's DHCPv6 relay agent is pretty much useless and I really look forward to WireGuard in RouterOS v7, if ever released as stable :D

Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by pilsetnieks on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @08:26AM (#26633789)
The one thing that winbox gives you is the ability to connect directly to a MAC address - helpful if you've borked your IP address setup.
Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by outworlder on Monday March 29, 2021 @07:36PM (#26629666)
Are you talking about the windows-based software? It's clunky.

The CLI, on the other hand, is pretty great. Everything is consistent.

Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by candiddevmike on Monday March 29, 2021 @07:43PM (#26629714)
No the CLI too unfortunately. While it is consistent, the editing of row numbers and the display of settings is really cumbersome. Setting up VLANs in particular is really tedious. Compared to real enterprise grade networking (Juniper/Cisco/Arista) it's dangerously unintuitive.

I've also tried automating it via Ansible with no success, has anyone had any luck with that?

Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by walrus01 on Monday March 29, 2021 @09:28PM (#26630384)
the mikrotik CLI is an abomination if you're ever worked with JunOS on a juniper.
Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by darkr on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @12:28AM (#26631256)
I wouldn’t go that far. There’s often leaky abstractions, sure. But at 30% (or less) of the price of the equivalent Juniper hardware, I can usually live with it
Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by sam_lowry_ on Monday March 29, 2021 @07:11PM (#26629488)
Some Mikrotik hardware can run OpenWRT.
Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by candiddevmike on Monday March 29, 2021 @07:46PM (#26629734)
I have an RB4011iGS+5HacQ2HnD, oddly enough made by the networking company Amazon acquired (Annapurna). In theory, the CPU is supported in the mainline kernel, but I can't find an OpenWRT release or figure out how to package a custom Linux payload for flashing.

Mikrotik support refuses to provide me the uboot config they use or guide me through this process :(

Re:Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface by pabs3 on Monday March 29, 2021 @10:14PM (#26630637)