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Re:FreeBSD 13.0 – Full Desktop Experience by MuffinFlavored on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @11:51AM (#26492862)
> I would love to be able to switch to FreeBSD

Curious what you think you would personally gain other than the much-repeated mantra of "they have organized man docs and a strong set of CLI userland tools because they are developed alongside the kernel"

Re:FreeBSD 13.0 – Full Desktop Experience by imwillofficial on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @12:09PM (#26493123)
Well, I was thinking more like “They have organized man docs, and a strong set of CLI user land tools because they are developed alongside the kernel.” But I’m an Oxford comma man myself.
Re:FreeBSD 13.0 – Full Desktop Experience by YooLi on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @05:47PM (#26497179)
Google Oxford comma. It’s not simply a comma before an ‘and’.
Re:FreeBSD 13.0 – Full Desktop Experience by imwillofficial on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @06:03PM (#26497315)
I know, it was a joke on His dismissiveness. I'm only half as clever as I try to be
Re:FreeBSD 13.0 – Full Desktop Experience by orhmeh09 on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @02:58PM (#26495410)
Those sound like excellent gains in and of themselves.
Re:FreeBSD 13.0 – Full Desktop Experience by nix23 on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @03:15PM (#26495640)
ZFS DTRACE and pf....oh and the mantra.
Re:FreeBSD 13.0 – Full Desktop Experience by mixedCase on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @04:33PM (#26496440)
BSD ZFS I believe uses the same code as Linux nowadays or was at least planning to.

eBPF should cover your other two needs, by way of itself and through bpftrace.

Re:FreeBSD 13.0 – Full Desktop Experience by laumars on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @05:00PM (#26496726)
> BSD ZFS I believe uses the same code as Linux nowadays or was at least planning to.

Just because FreeBSD and Linux share the same ZFS upstream it doesn’t mean the experience of running ZFS on Linux is in any way comparable to running it on FreeBSD.

For starters, it’s a default in FreeBSD rather than an optional driver you have to install yourself (or even compile yourself on some distros). And that along makes a massive difference when it comes to maintenance.

Re:FreeBSD 13.0 – Full Desktop Experience by throwawayboise on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @05:39PM (#26497097)
What is the benefit of using ZFS on a personal or dev machine? I almost never tinker with filesystem partitions or allocation once I set them up as part of installing an OS. I occasionally do on a production machine if I've misjudged space needed for something, but there again it's pretty rare.
Re:FreeBSD 13.0 – Full Desktop Experience by JdeBP on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @06:26PM (#26497561)
Boot environments for operating system upgrades. They take advantage of ZFS.
Re:FreeBSD 13.0 – Full Desktop Experience by laumars on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @06:59PM (#26497847)
Snapshots was the biggie that made me switch to ZFS more than 10 years ago. Never looked back.
Re:FreeBSD 13.0 – Full Desktop Experience by nix23 on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @05:51PM (#26497209)
Oh it's massive especially for kernel-devs/os-devs, snapshots and boot-environments (bectl)....for personal machines...zfs-send..never have to think about correct backups/restores anymore.
Re:FreeBSD 13.0 – Full Desktop Experience by Marsymars on Thursday March 18, 2021 @07:44PM (#26508791)
I run Windows and macOS on my personal and dev machines (so don’t use ZFS), but I’d really appreciate the peace of mind of bit rot protection.