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Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by gogopuppygogo on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:13AM (#26477815)
Right to repair is not about making devices more repairable but about enabling us to buy parts and service from third parties outside the manufacturers.

Apple has begun serializing parts. You cannot take a camera from one iPhone 12 and put it into another iPhone 12 because Apple serialized the camera to the phone it shipped with. They are beyond reasonable with this kind of hostile approach to repair.

Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by JoshTko on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:22AM (#26477977)
I think Apple is justifiably terrified of a 3rd party battery, installed by someone with 5 minutes of training, causing a fire and making headlines.
Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by ClumsyPilot on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @06:55PM (#26484294)
Why should my rights to do as I please with my property suffer because of what Apple wants.

Last time I checked, i didnt lease the iPhone, I bought it. This is a straight up violation of property rights

we pay full price for these products, but we have no control of any sort!

If we let this continue, we will live in a world where the manufacturer of a smart bottle decides when you stop drinking, the manufacturer of a TV decides that you shouldn't be watching porn, etc.

Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by spamizbad on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:28AM (#26478069)
Okay, then why is the camera serialized and not the battery (which, incidentally, you CAN replace on the iPhone 12)?
Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by bzzzt on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:57AM (#26478514)
Just guessing:

- it's a component of the Face ID authentication scheme

- they don't want people using iPhones with sub-par camera's posting on social media

- they don't want iPhones with sub-par camera's on the second hand market

Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by smoldesu on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @12:57PM (#26479466)
Then don't let it take sub-par cameras. I don't give a rats ass about serialized components as long as I can still buy and install the factory parts.
Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by AshWolfy on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @02:03PM (#26480515)
The cameras have nothing to do with face ID, and its not just that 3rd parts cameras arent compatable, but even oem cameras arent without access to apple's systems called ast2 and gsx
Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by eigen on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @02:19PM (#26480731)
> Okay, then why is the camera serialized and not the battery (which, incidentally, you CAN replace on the iPhone 12)?

on my macbook I can see the battery serial number in System Information under the Power section and the camera unique ID under the Camera section. not sure why it would be any different on the iphone.

Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by rover0 on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:32AM (#26478147)
How is a 3rd party battery related to replacing an apple iphone camera with an apple iphone camera?
Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by bzzzt on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:59AM (#26478546)
Because there are also off-brand "Apple iPhone camera's" (for instance QC failures from the factory, third shifts or clones)
Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by rover0 on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @01:47PM (#26480256)
There are no 3rd party iphone camera's for recent iphones.

Apple blocks replacing an iphone camera with an iphone camera using their software.

iPhone 12 is unrepairable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnG3h3Jewq4

Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by bzzzt on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @10:41AM (#26491910)
Apple (and authorizaed repair shops) can and will repair iPhone 12's.

Just wondering how often you'd need camera repair. I've never heard of someone needing a camera replacement for their phone, so to me this looks like a guy inflating a niche problem to enormous proportions to make a point for his sponsors.

Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by rover0 on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @09:58PM (#26499010)
Louis is a repair guy, not some guy working "for his sponsors."

The camera is an example of unrepairability.

Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by mqus on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @12:24PM (#26478955)
Apple is terrified of bad headlines? That's news to me.
Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by minikites on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:58AM (#26478523)
Do replacement cameras and screens cause fires too?
Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by bzzzt on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @12:01PM (#26478573)
Worse, they cause unsatisfied customers who don't want their next phone to be an Apple.
Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by C19is20 on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @12:11PM (#26478736)
I bought some OEM stuff for my car. I bet Ford are fuming that I've devalued their product. If someone replaced a camera and weren't happy with it, at least they could try another.
Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by bzzzt on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @10:32AM (#26491775)
I bet they are when you're passing it on as a 'genuine' Ford part when you're selling the car.
Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by minikites on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @02:24PM (#26480799)
That's a problem for Apple. Why is it a problem for consumers?
Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by nomel on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @07:44PM (#26484710)
I imagine the used market would be flooded with "iPhones" filled with non-genuine parts. Non genuine parts often don't interact well with things like firmware updates.
Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by minikites on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @08:42PM (#26485165)
So by this logic all automobiles should only be serviced by the manufacturer. Somehow I think we'd manage to figure something out for a product that is orders of magnitude less dangerous than an automobile.
Re:Right to Repair Gaining Momentum by bzzzt on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @10:36AM (#26491831)
That's already the case for the more complicated parts. Also, at least here in the EU, if you want factory warranty you have to follow the dealer schedule and do the necessary replacements.