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Re:Why inflation is not a threat by lmarcos on Sunday March 14, 2021 @09:04AM (#26455031)
> especially the poorest that makes the mistake of saving cash

Perhaps a bit off topic, but: do the majority of the people who are not considered part of the "poorest" ones do put their savings in stocks, properties and the like?

The majority of people I know in their 20s, 30s with a decent income per month (I admit, mostly software engineers) don't do other thing than put cash in their regular bank accounts. No stocks, no properties. If any, they have a "savings account" that offer like 0.001% interests. This is in Western Europe.

Re:Why inflation is not a threat by DavidSJ on Sunday March 14, 2021 @09:08AM (#26455063)
If you have a steady income and significant savings (say, anything more than six months of expenses), and you haven’t invested a significant fraction of that savings in some growth-oriented asset class like stocks, you’re making a very foolish long-term decision.
Re:Why inflation is not a threat by lmarcos on Sunday March 14, 2021 @09:11AM (#26455087)
I don't disagree. I just say that, in my limited life experience, most of my acquaintances do not have other thing than cash in the bank. These acquaintances are not precisely "poor".
Re:Why inflation is not a threat by chrisseaton on Sunday March 14, 2021 @09:15AM (#26455116)
> most of my acquaintances do not have other thing than cash in the bank

That's madness - I can't imagine why they'd do that. Their money would be rapidly eroding away.

But also - remember almost every professional has a pension, which is always invested, so yes almost every professional owns stocks and shares.

Re:Why inflation is not a threat by adamnew123456 on Sunday March 14, 2021 @10:12AM (#26455605)
> That's madness - I can't imagine why they'd do that.

I think your confusion is in assuming that this is something you do rather than it being the status quo that receives no attention.

Up until recently I had about $80k sitting in a HYSA while interest rates on that account dropped like a rock. I only really noticed that after crunching the numbers and figuring out that was much beyond what I would realistically need. It took a few days to figure out what I could do about that given my income and employment situation.

I'm not sure how much of this applies to someone who is natively middle-class, but I find that part of the luxury of having a good income and a minimal lifestyle is just not thinking about money. If that's where your baseline is then you need some other motivation to scrutinize your finances. It comes more easily to me because I find it interesting but I can see someone without that drive just letting cash sit and being satisfied that the number looks big enough.

Re:Why inflation is not a threat by chrisseaton on Sunday March 14, 2021 @11:17AM (#26456084)
Here's a motivating way to think about it - if you have $100k in a bank account and you're getting 0 or next to 0 interest, you're effectively paying about $7.5k a year for that bank account in the first year, due to a guesstimate 7.5% long-term medium risk amortised investment return you missed out on.

Due to compound interest the amount you're effectively paying is going to keep going up every year. After 20 years the effective yearly fee you're paying for having that bank account is... $30k a year.

Maybe that $30k a year fee to store $100k is worth if to some people due to the government-backend security of bank deposits... but long term I think the dealer is always winning that game.

People need to learn about interest and compound interest in school.

And this is all before we even talk about inflation further eating into your pile. Money in a bank account is dead money - it'll rot away to nothing.

Re:Why inflation is not a threat by bfostbfostbfost on Sunday March 14, 2021 @01:46PM (#26457178)
Can you please give some advice as to how to convert cash savings to a better yield investment? Especially in this current market where it “feels” to me (I am ignorant) that the stock market is artificially high. Maybe start to dollar cost average in to etf/mutual funds, to avoid a bad timing of “shift cash into market at an all time high right before it crashes”? Sorry for the ignorant question but the thought of cash savings eroding quickly while I don’t really know the best plan for it keeps me up at night. Cheers.
Re:Why inflation is not a threat by chrisseaton on Sunday March 14, 2021 @02:54PM (#26457770)
The US markets may feel artificially high to you, but a conventional modest-return, low-risk investment account that you can arrange with any high-street investment advisor is going to be extremely broad in their portfolio. The US markets that you think are inflated may comprise 5% or something of it. It'll also be invested in Asia, Africa, South America, and in different industries.

These kind of broad and boring investments always return about 5-10% or something like that a year. Occasionally they go down one year if there's a big bust up, but if you look over a ten year window it's always going up.

So why doesn't everyone invest in them if they're so dependable? Am I selling a get-rich-quick scheme? The reason is they're too modest for most people who are trying to get more like 15%. But those people take more risk - the kind of risk you're probably worried about.

And so why does the bank pay so little interest? Well they're getting that 5-10% from similar modest-return, low-risk investments (well probably a bit less less as they're more cautious)... and pocketing it.

Re:Why inflation is not a threat by imtringued on Sunday March 14, 2021 @05:09PM (#26459221)
I would recommend you to form a habit of putting some money into investments every month, not because of DCA or whatever investment strategy is the best, no simply because starting small and growing incrementally is a tried and true strategy for everything in life. If things go wrong you can always quit.
Re:Why inflation is not a threat by jtdev on Sunday March 14, 2021 @09:42AM (#26455332)
The equities and real estate markets don’t exactly look appealing right now; I can either watch inflation slowly eat at savings while waiting for better market conditions, or potentially watch a significant portion of net worth evaporate when a mega correction occurs - which is looking very likely.
Re:Why inflation is not a threat by deanmoriarty on Sunday March 14, 2021 @10:03AM (#26455523)
If your cash position is a one-time thing that’s fine I guess, but if you’ve been saying that for a few years (most people in that position do, not saying it’s you) then you’ve been losing a lot.

I’ve been constantly invested in index funds for 10+ years, never sold a position, including before/after March 2020. Some positions I have are up more than 200%. A crash of 50% won’t do me too much damage, I’ll still be way, way far ahead of the many friends I have who have been in cash since 2015, repeating your same “a correction is likely, I’ll wait for the bottom to get in”.

Re:Why inflation is not a threat by jtdev on Sunday March 14, 2021 @10:20AM (#26455660)
I have a similar approach: I typically have ~60% of net worth invested across index funds and tech growth stocks. But I’ve been building my cash position in recent months mostly via sale of said index funds and growth stocks (I was able to dodge the downturn in tech stocks in recent weeks), but also by simply banking funds that would otherwise have been put directly into equities. Now I’m reluctant to reinvest as I see significant risk in the market short term. I don’t intend to remain on the sidelines.

I’m beginning to question the maxim that “you can’t time the market”... sure, you’re unlikely to time the exact top or bottom, but an approximation can result in significant risk reduction and/or upside.

Re:Why inflation is not a threat by frongpik on Sunday March 14, 2021 @03:36PM (#26458188)
You sound like a surfer who is watching big waves at the shore and is waiting for "the right moment", but at any moment it's either too shallow for the surf board, or there's a big scary wave that's about to collapse.
Re:Why inflation is not a threat by imtringued on Sunday March 14, 2021 @05:11PM (#26459233)
The best time to start is today but you should never put all your money into something you don't understand. Start small and grow from there. You'll probably change your mind along the way.
Re:Why inflation is not a threat by statstutor on Sunday March 14, 2021 @09:19AM (#26455146)
Since you will have to pay for housing in [local currency], and I'd usually prioritise housing higher than optimally growing wealth, I'd suggest you first hold enough cash to pay for housing as far as you need it - probably a lot longer than 6 months.

Your advice is fine advice, if you already own your housing and have savings on top of that, which many or most people don't.

Re:Why inflation is not a threat by iso1210 on Sunday March 14, 2021 @11:04AM (#26455980)
> If you have a steady income and significant savings

Only the richest have 6 months expenses in savings. Majority live paycheck-to-paycheck

Re:Why inflation is not a threat by 7_my_mind on Sunday March 14, 2021 @09:14AM (#26455109)
It depends on the culture. I also live in western Europe and in my community even the literally illiterate shepherds that I grew up amongst, have their money in stocks and bonds or intermediary funds.
Re:Why inflation is not a threat by ant6n on Sunday March 14, 2021 @10:31AM (#26455737)
Right now it doesn’t seem like a great time to invest. Although that’s been true for 4 years. In some sense it would be good if the powers that be would allow a market correction.