Re:Investigating how the New York Times A/B tests their head...
by 1stcity3rdcoast on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @10:21PM
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Have journalists ever controlled or written their own headlines? I don't think this is a change from any point in newspaper history.
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Re:Investigating how the New York Times A/B tests their head...
by nkozyra on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @10:51PM
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I wasn't suggesting that journalists wrote their own headlines, although for smaller publications it was more likely to be the case. I worked at a newspaper in a 50k city and journalists gave suggestions with their copy.
My point, rather, was that headlines slip past the journalistic barriers applied to copy. Often the people on the desk are making a headline fit at 11:45 pm or later and have no real oversight.
Re:Investigating how the New York Times A/B tests their head...
by selestify on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @10:25PM
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Why has it been historically separated like this?
Re:Investigating how the New York Times A/B tests their head...
by nkozyra on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @10:54PM
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The story is worked on throughout the day/week. It goes through a number of copy editors and revisions. Its final publication date might be in limbo.
It's chosen for Wednesday in the budget meeting. It's 1A material. A cursory headline is written. Then a big news event happens: now it's 2A material. That means less space. The copy needs to be cut, the headline needs to be one line shorter, etc. This happens at, say, 9 pm and the journalist and editor in chief have been at home for hours.
Re:Investigating how the New York Times A/B tests their head...
by adolph on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @10:36PM
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The latency of decision cycle was too great in previous times. Even within digital workflows the length of time between knowledge of final space available on the physical page and when that space had to be filled with text was too short to haggle with a writer. It had to be performed by a smaller set of people right next to the people laying the type of not the people laying the type.
Re:Investigating how the New York Times A/B tests their head...
by spoonjim on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @11:04PM
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Two reasons: the headline writers need to know exactly how many characters to use, as part of the prepress process, right in the layout room, while the journalists are out in the field, and 2) headline writing is its own skill (especially for tabloid headlines).