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Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by haolez on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @08:27PM (#26419001)
Off-topic, but is there a reason for small companies/projects to use Oracle Cloud? Are their prices and feature set competitive against AWS, Azure and GCP for this audience?
Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by Macha on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @08:31PM (#26419040)
My understanding is that the three reasons people use Oracle Cloud are:

1. You're valuable enough of a marketing point that they're willing to give you insane discounts to reel you in (see Zoom)

2. You're locked in enough on other Oracle technologies and they've raised your license fees but coincidentally it comes with a big bundle discount if you also use Oracle cloud, or maybe you just failed an audit and Oracle said the problem will go away if you buy some cloud services.

3. For really small scale (like some dude on r/selfhosted scale, not even startup scale), they offer a free tier that doesn't have a time limit

Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by philliphaydon on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @08:57PM (#26419222)
Nice, 2 VMs for free. Might put my little side project there for a while. Currently on 2 nano vm's on AWS.
Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by philistine on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @10:23PM (#26419818)
we're talking very few dollars here. In my experience, the only thing making me go above a dollar a month on AWS is the storage on the VMs.
Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by Aperocky on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @08:35PM (#26419065)
Biased opinion: Having worked with Oracle products before, I'm not willing to touch anything from Oracle.
Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by Guest42 on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @08:47PM (#26419150)
The only time i kind of liked their products was when the corporation spent 1.5 million on the fastest database I’ve ever seen.
Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by tmpz22 on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @11:12PM (#26420118)
What made it "fast"? Were your workloads properly optimized previously?
Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by Guest42 on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @11:59PM (#26420435)
I forget the exact specs but it had close to 200 cores and a team of highly paid dbas that had optimized every aspect. Even the worst of queries would come back instantly.
Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by covermydonkey on Thursday March 11, 2021 @01:42AM (#26421019)
I can second this.

We had a database growing by around 200GB of relevant data per month. While I'm not a fan of Oracle having worked there long ago, that database was unbelievably fast. They moved to MySQL years later and it required a much much bigger tin after being heavily optimized.

Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by whitepoplar on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @11:03PM (#26420060)
Details pls?
Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by Guest42 on Thursday March 11, 2021 @12:02AM (#26420460)
It was for an enterprise web app (.net) that was used to process seemingly millions of applications per month which would then pull in a whole ton of external data.
Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by hansor on Thursday March 11, 2021 @08:44AM (#26423927)
Huge mistake. I was surprised as well :)
Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by luhn on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @08:33PM (#26419052)
Their prices are very competitive. Cheaper than AWS and Azure by a fairly large margin.
Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by toyg on Thursday March 11, 2021 @02:42AM (#26421374)
This is Oracle we’re talking about. The minute they get a significant foothold, prices are guaranteed to skyrocket.
Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by tgsovlerkhgsel on Thursday March 11, 2021 @01:19AM (#26420874)
I looked at traffic pricing (the most outrageous item among the big three cloud providers).

Outbound traffic from US/Europe is $0.0085 USD per GB. That's roughly an order of magnitude cheaper. Also, 10 TB free will be enough for many small use cases. The billing based on source instead of destination also makes the cost a bit more predictable.

That's just list price, of course, and it's still well above e.g. Hetzner, but it's a reasonable price.

Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by Macha on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @08:35PM (#26419068)
Does anyone pay list price for AWS? Either you're small enough to avail of startup credits etc. or you're big enough to negotiate a personalised discount
Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by Aperocky on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @08:42PM (#26419125)
If you know what you're doing, and knows a better part of the AWS services, the discount you'll get just by knowing what you're doing is probably bigger at that point.

Cloud native can go to either extreme cost wise, and it's very dependent on good engineering (which, unfortunately, is the exception not the norm).

Re:Oracle Cloud is unreachable by hansor on Thursday March 11, 2021 @08:42AM (#26423898)
One word: PRICE.

In the end of the day this is THE cheapest cloud available if you just want few VMs with database and under 10TB of traffic monthly.

Personal opinion: it is much easier to manage than AWS.