Is it important to include every company’s initial? The purpose is to convey the idea of companies that have extremely good cash flow, and can compensate extremely well with equity due to consistent long term growth.

It’s obvious MS and any other company that compensates similarly is included when stating “FAANG”, but throwing an M or other letter in there is going to make it harder to roll off the tongue.

> It’s obvious MS and any other company that compensates similarly is included when stating “FAANG”

Then why is faang.io using a strict definition of FAANG? I think a loose definition is preferable, but clearly that's not a universally-held opinion.

That is a good point, I guess I'm just used to seeing it in discussions where the context is distinguishing companies with high pay and valuable RSUs versus others.

> It’s obvious MS and any other company that compensates similarly is included when stating “FAANG”

Doesn't MS pay substantially less though? My peers at MS make way less than my peers at Google, Facebook, and the others in FAANG. The only one that kinda sorta underpays is Amazon, but if you consider the stock appreciation they sometimes did better.

https://www.levels.fyi/

Yes, but I figured MS compensation is more similar to other FAANG companies than non FAANG companies for the purposes of someone looking for a higher paying job.

It was originally a wall street term to refer to a specific set of high growth tech stocks. Microsoft was not high growth.

I remember a scant five or so years ago the term that was used was "Big 4", referring to Google, Facebook, Amazon, and one one of either Twitter, Microsoft, or Apple.

Now Apple is firmly a member of the club, Twitter seems completely rejected, Microsoft sort of a second tier citizen, and Netflix has joined out of left field.

i prefer MANGA for the list of desirable bigcos to work. Don't know anyone who wants to work at FB (that isnt currently there) and its a much better acronym.

I heard GAANDU (Google, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Dropbox, Uber) a few years ago. Apparently it's a hindi word that means asshole.

FAANGMULTAD is the term (meme) you're looking for.

M - Microsoft

U - Uber

L - Lyft

T - Twitter

A - AirBnB

D - Dropbox

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https://new.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=FAANGM...

Also a description of how many of the employees feel

Surprised that Dropbox is still going strong and is offering competitive compensation. I had def written it off couple of years ago.

I think it should be FAANGMULTAD+ to be more inclusive of other, maybe overlooked high growth tech startups.

can microsoft compete on pay?

With places like Amazon? Most definitely.

It was wall street

on Blind people take the meme to another level, to be more inclusive

> Including Apple and Netflix but not Microsoft still boggles my mind

You could bikeshed including or excluding particular companies forever. Probably not useful to do.