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Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by pavel_lishin on Thursday June 09, 2011 @03:33PM (#2638485)
> A village in china that paints portraits of pop culture icons as various dog breeds. Look, Obama as a GreyHound!

If your ideas are retarded, of course they're a dime a dozen.

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by hcho on Thursday June 09, 2011 @04:09PM (#2638624)
How does selling ringtones of a frog singing to club music sound as an idea to you? Let me introduce you to Crazy Frog:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Frog

Retarded ideas make money too.

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by jamesteow on Thursday June 09, 2011 @05:14PM (#2638824)
I sure as hell didn't think limiting people to 140 characters was going to make sense.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by AretNCarlsen on Thursday June 09, 2011 @11:47PM (#2639724)
I believe that was originally a technical limitation, and only later did it become evident that there is a business value in offering partially-literate individuals a medium that caters to, while providing plausible deniability for, their slow reading and writing speeds.

Twitter has little or no technical reason to be so limited, of course, but doesn't want to alienate the tldr crowd.

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by beza1e1 on Friday June 10, 2011 @08:48AM (#2640638)
Technical limitation: SMS are 160 characters. 20 chars for username and 140 chars for message.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by wickedchicken on Thursday June 09, 2011 @07:01PM (#2639108)
So does running a successful bagel shop. The "ideas are worthless" people place your neighborhood bagel shop, Crazy Frog ringtones, and Qualcomm in the same group: businesses you can totally run as long as you know how to 'hustle.' Somehow I think Andrew Viterbi would frown on that.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by Alex3917 on Thursday June 09, 2011 @04:35PM (#2638717)
"If your ideas are retarded, of course they're a dime a dozen."

There is actually a town in china where the entire village makes their money painting caricatures of monkeys. Not saying it's a good career move, but at least that's the context for where the idea came from.

Interesting enough, the majority of the world's oil paintings come from this one tiny village with 5,000 painters who spend all day slavishly copying the same templates over and over:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiamen

You can find all their stuff on ebay and alibaba.

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by briggsbio on Thursday June 09, 2011 @05:18PM (#2638833)
I wouldn't call Xiamen a "town" or a "village." My cousin lives there with his wife and two children. It has a population of over 2.5 million people, and was voted (by whom, IDK) one of the "most livable cities in China." He worked for EDS for years and wanted to be transfered to China because of how much he loved it. When they wouldn't transfer him, he FOUND a way to move there. He ended up building a factory there to manufacture leather goods. Get the best leather he can from N&S America, and manufactures it there. He now has hundreds of employees, many with some form of disability, and is incredibly happy.

So I wouldn't call Xiamen itself a village, but you may be referring to a small village nearby.

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by learc83 on Friday June 10, 2011 @03:33AM (#2640101)
He's talking about Xiamen Wushipu oil painting village. It's a part of Xiamen, there is a subsection about it farther down the wikipedia page.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by pom on Thursday June 09, 2011 @10:27PM (#2639548)
Or in the streets of Montmartre, sold as genuine Parisian paintings...
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by wickedchicken on Thursday June 09, 2011 @06:57PM (#2639098)
> If your ideas are retarded, of course they're a dime a dozen.

Conversely, people who believe ideas are a dime a dozen tend to focus on shallow ideas. The lack of deep interaction with technology (and whatever a pivot is supposed to be) forces you into businesses with a more social rather than technical role: web design, blogging, social networks, etc. I don't see much of HN's advice working well for a company developing asynchronous CPU chipsets. In theory they should be the same; the advent of fabless semiconductor shops and hardware synthesis languages lets someone design chips in their garage in Iowa, but the depth of technical knowledge required makes it a much different game than starting up "a distributed Facebook" or "a Foursquare but for X."

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by ethnomusicolog on Friday June 10, 2011 @07:07AM (#2640412)
Just want to point that the most underrated reason why people choose the social app path is not the cost but politics (i.e. asking for permission). You have to ask the permission of fewer people (actually 0) to launch a social web app than to build a new hardware product.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by dmitri1981 on Thursday June 09, 2011 @04:26PM (#2638684)
Oddly enough my friend paints famous people as cats. Her Chairman Miaow is incredible and I am sure people would love the prints.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by Jun8 on Thursday June 09, 2011 @04:56PM (#2638776)
Exactly! Idea generation shouldn't be mental diarrhea, which this reads like, ranging from ho-hum, it's already obviously been done ("Brainstorm Consulting - Teach companies how to brainstorm", "Replicate reality TV shows for foreign countries.") to frivolous ("Herbal Flavored Gum").
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by revorad on Thursday June 09, 2011 @04:16PM (#2638652)
I think that idea could actually make some money.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by espadagroup on Thursday June 09, 2011 @03:46PM (#2638538)
Ideas are a dime a dozen, but great ideas are not. Some ideas are better than others, and some are much better than others. It would be easy to argue that someone who could consistently come up with the much better ones would be worth just as much if not more than a great executor.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by marknutter on Thursday June 09, 2011 @04:19PM (#2638661)
Great ideas are only great in hindsight.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by espadagroup on Thursday June 09, 2011 @05:12PM (#2638820)
I really don't think so. If in at least your own mind it is not a great idea then you shouldn't do it to begin with.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by marknutter on Thursday June 09, 2011 @05:59PM (#2638947)
Why on earth would anyone pursue an idea they themselves didn't think was great?
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by puredemo on Thursday June 09, 2011 @06:29PM (#2639024)
Make money.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by ippisl on Thursday June 09, 2011 @06:33PM (#2639033)
Nothing is worth without some level of testing. this also applies for execution.

But testing/evaluating an idea can be easier than full blown execution. and you can use it to estimate how likely your idea would succeed.

And at this point your idea has some value.

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by hugh3 on Friday June 10, 2011 @05:55AM (#2640302)
I don't understand all this pooh-poohing of these ideas.

None of them is great, but the point is that every one of 'em (well, all the ones I've read) could be, if executed correctly, a perfectly viable business. Picking out a few at random:

Presentation Consulting - Teach companies how to improve their presentations

That's not a bad idea. Is somebody already doing it? Possibly, but that doesn't mean you can't do it too.

Online flower shop with one-hour delivery

Sounds tricky, and you'd need to restrict it to a couple of major and dense cities, but again there's no reason it's not a viable business. Market it correctly by encouraging men to send their ladies flowers spontaneously, and you could surely make some money.

Build Your Own Back Pack Shop

Damn you, random numbers! I don't much like this idea, but there's gotta be somebody out there (schoolkids, I guess) who would love to build customized backpacks for themselves. Great idea? No. World changing? No. Profitable if you get the product and the marketing right? Sure!

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by jdietrich on Friday June 10, 2011 @09:29AM (#2640759)
> Build Your Own Back Pack Shop

Timbuk2 have a successful business offering customised messenger bags.

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by beza1e1 on Friday June 10, 2011 @08:47AM (#2640635)
Presentation Consulting - Teach companies how to improve their presentations: Duarte http://www.duarte.com/

Famous, because they made Al Gores Climate Change presentation.

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by Alex3917 on Thursday June 09, 2011 @04:25PM (#2638681)
For what it's worth, here is the subset of the ideas I came up with from that list:

http://alexkrupp.typepad.com/sensemaking/2009/02/68-free-bus...

The point of the exercise is that most people think of five or ten ideas, and then go with the first decent idea they come up with. But if you actually force yourself to come up with 100+ ideas then it's more likely that your idea will legitimately be a good idea. Which is important since the first .1% of the work you do on the project has a large influence on whether the next 99.9% will make you either millions or zero.

Fred Wilson also recently said that he would use one of the 999 if someone made it, in case that means anything to those perusing the list.

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by wrs on Thursday June 09, 2011 @07:41PM (#2639193)
Quickly scanning the list, I see we did #712 as an intern project: http://www.elmoreclub.com/ I'll be looking for Fred's steps soon!
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by run4yourlives on Thursday June 09, 2011 @05:43PM (#2638907)
>A paperless hostpital

may as well have suggested an lunar-orbiting space platform that launches rockets to mars...

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by systemtrigger on Thursday June 09, 2011 @03:42PM (#2638516)
Corollary: Some ideas are vastly more lucrative than others. Which is why it's useful to spend a week listing your top 999 ideas. Execution is a PITA so choose carefully.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by mlwarren on Thursday June 09, 2011 @03:32PM (#2638474)
Interesting list but the notion that "ideas are only valuable when someone (like you) makes something happen" can only go so far. If you have a bad idea that you make happen it doesn't automatically become valuable.

This story might prove that ideas are a dime a dozen, but one can argue that good ideas are not.

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by mikk0j on Thursday June 09, 2011 @03:34PM (#2638486)
My favorite, #469: "A YouTube VC firm, that will invest money in people who are willing to do stupid stuff on video in hopes that the video will go viral and they will make a profit."

Could happen, in today's angel investment climate...

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by saraid216 on Thursday June 09, 2011 @04:25PM (#2638676)
Rebecca Black?
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by rospaya on Thursday June 09, 2011 @05:07PM (#2638804)
She gave money to somebody to film her doing stupid stuff.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by evan_ on Thursday June 09, 2011 @09:05PM (#2639381)
I love this idea- like a cross between Kickstarter and "I'll eat a bug for a nickel".
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by DrCatbox on Thursday June 09, 2011 @05:23PM (#2638846)
I have read a couple of hundred of them and thats the most useless ideas I have ever seen.

Most of them seem to be a solution to really mundane everyday consumer quirks. None of them attempts to use basic human needs such as need for communication and approval. Its just "somebody could do my laundry" and "somebody could write something on a website".

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by mjallday on Thursday June 09, 2011 @08:21PM (#2639280)
They are only useless if your goal is to address one of the basic human needs you mention and even then maybe they do. "Someone could do my laundry so I can complete my research paper on curing cancer"
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by cruise02 on Thursday June 09, 2011 @03:55PM (#2638576)
I'm sure I saw this here first, but "Ideas are just a multiplier of execution." http://sivers.org/multiply
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by arethuza on Thursday June 09, 2011 @04:27PM (#2638689)
"Microbrewery with high-octane beers with boutique labels that cost as much as good wines"

32% beer at £35 a bottle:

http://www.brewdog.com/

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by gigantor on Thursday June 09, 2011 @04:54PM (#2638770)
http://flippa.com, where you get a stream of business ideas that are mostly proven to work. Due diligence required as usual to identify scams, future market demand, revenue/effort, competition, profit margin, etc.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by dpcan on Thursday June 09, 2011 @03:50PM (#2638551)
This list is actually pretty awesome. I had my doubts, but wow, very nice.

Funny: #120 A travel company that arranges people to stay at others houses.

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by saraid216 on Thursday June 09, 2011 @04:24PM (#2638673)
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by lurchpop on Thursday June 09, 2011 @04:39PM (#2638733)
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by fredoliveira on Thursday June 09, 2011 @05:05PM (#2638800)
by travel agency he probably meant someone who takes the home-finding job off your hands.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by ThomPete on Thursday June 09, 2011 @05:05PM (#2638799)
Ideas matter. So does luck, timing and many other things.

Not ideas like "I want to create a backup tool" but rather ideas like "I want to create a backup tool that allow the user to simply drag and drop the files they want backed up into a folder on their machine". In other words ideas that are followed by an insight.

When people walk around saying ideas are a dime a dosen and execution is everything they forget that execution in itself is empty. You need to execute on something and that something is ideas.

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by ulisesroche on Thursday June 09, 2011 @03:58PM (#2638590)
#8: A gadget to cook beans/lentils/vegetables/rice for the same amount of time (quicker than what can be done in a slow cooker.)

Ah dang, I was just about to re-invent the microwave too!

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by ctdonath on Thursday June 09, 2011 @04:46PM (#2638751)
Naw, the microwave is still pretty much a one-thing-at-a-time device. Do one thing after another, and the first is cold when the next is ready; do them together, and you either have to pop stuff in at different times or some stuff will be over/under-cooked when it ends.

Methinks the idea was something crockpot/rice-cookerish which you dump all the stuff into at once, say into different sections of the cooker, and it ensures everything finishes cooking at the same time even though everything cooks at different rates. Lower/higher temps for some things, delayed start for others...

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by ulisesroche on Thursday June 09, 2011 @06:38PM (#2639046)
...and twitter integration! Let's get rich!
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by pacomerh on Thursday June 09, 2011 @04:58PM (#2638780)
Ideas that are based on making money for the sake of being rich are the worst.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by fragsworth on Thursday June 09, 2011 @05:12PM (#2638821)
But that's kind of the main reason why you start a business, you know, to make a lot of money.

Otherwise you're talking about charities.

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by masterzora on Thursday June 09, 2011 @06:11PM (#2638976)
Really? I've talked to a number of entrepreneurs who are in it because they have an idea they'd like to see happen or they think it's fun or to try to leave a mark on the world or a number of other reasons where the money is only a side effect.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by pacomerh on Thursday June 09, 2011 @07:16PM (#2639138)
Well put, money happens when you scratch an itch that is keeping you from sleeping basically. Many people got lost somewhere in the way and think of ideas as machines that will squeeze wallets and make them rich. All people I know that made money actually solved a personal necessity or where so excited about wanting to see something happen that their own genuine excitement attracted natural attention from people that where at the same time excited to see that.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by lichichen on Thursday June 09, 2011 @03:48PM (#2638543)
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by scottkrager on Thursday June 09, 2011 @04:37PM (#2638724)
968. Make a Triple Snuggy.

What exactly is that? I'm scared.

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by run4yourlives on Thursday June 09, 2011 @05:44PM (#2638910)
Considering there is also the "double snuggy", this idea is pretty much 7 minute abs.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by rokhayakebe on Thursday June 09, 2011 @06:55PM (#2639091)
The magic number is 6, not 7.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by iAmSpartacus on Thursday June 09, 2011 @04:49PM (#2638766)
I think that's called the human centipede
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by nbashaw on Thursday June 09, 2011 @05:56PM (#2638939)
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by rokhayakebe on Thursday June 09, 2011 @03:43PM (#2638518)
Yeah, but you know they aren't giving away their most valuable idea.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by hmottestad on Thursday June 09, 2011 @05:51PM (#2638926)
Typo. Dosen -> Dozen
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by wickedchicken on Thursday June 09, 2011 @06:42PM (#2639056)
Not to mention "hampster," regardless of how "Hampster Dance" was spelled
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by rkon on Thursday June 09, 2011 @06:03PM (#2638955)
I built a paper airplane and sold it for a penny. Therefore, airplanes are only worth a penny. Quick, let's all go get our own Airbus!
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by Shenglong on Thursday June 09, 2011 @03:52PM (#2638565)
Rent-a-wife – a woman who cleans, cooks, does laundry, picks up dry cleaning, mail, etc but without the emotional relationship. I'd rent...
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by yeahsure on Thursday June 09, 2011 @06:51PM (#2639073)
You could simply hire an assistance and have a maid at home. Of course, there could be a service where you can pick them based on their looks, though it would be a little discriminatory.
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by sireat on Friday June 10, 2011 @03:03AM (#2640060)
I know a number of places which have a rent-a-handyman service for lonely women (or I suppose men), who do all the handywork around the house.

They are reasonably popular on a small scale.

Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by skz on Thursday June 09, 2011 @10:12PM (#2639525)
This made me lol. They interchanged 'maid' and 'wife.'
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by Shenglong on Friday June 10, 2011 @09:05AM (#2640682)
Yeah exactly, haha. Just one of the more entertaining points
Re:Business ideas: proving ideas are a dime a dosen by puredemo on Thursday June 09, 2011 @06:31PM (#2639031)
Isn't this just a housekeeper?