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Re:UC’s termination of Elsevier contract has had limited neg... by whatever1 on Sunday March 07, 2021 @06:41PM (#26380890)
Let’s ask scihub to tell us how much traffic they get from uc*.edu ip addresses
Re:UC’s termination of Elsevier contract has had limited neg... by ta988 on Sunday March 07, 2021 @08:12PM (#26381389)
Traffic from US has always been huge anyway on scihub so thats going to be hard...

Put you in the shoes of a grad student.

What would you choose (ethics aside) navigate to the website of your library do 20 clicks through a shitty interface to finally get a paper, and thats if you are lucky, or just paste a DOI and wait 5 seconds...

Re:UC’s termination of Elsevier contract has had limited neg... by DominikPeters on Monday March 08, 2021 @01:09AM (#26382733)
When on mobile/iPad, my university (Harvard) makes me two-factor for every paper.
Re:UC’s termination of Elsevier contract has had limited neg... by asdff on Sunday March 07, 2021 @08:45PM (#26381559)
Luckily nearly every university offers their library proxy as a bookmarklet. It's two clicks: 1 to hit the bookmarklet, another to hit login on my autofilled secure sign on page.
Re:UC’s termination of Elsevier contract has had limited neg... by tasogare on Monday March 08, 2021 @03:25AM (#26383377)
My university does (a top national one) and it’s still less reliable and UX friendly than SciHub.
Re:UC’s termination of Elsevier contract has had limited neg... by ta988 on Sunday March 07, 2021 @09:41PM (#26381850)
Thankfully some universities have a decently working ezproxy config but still. Then you hit the paywall, or the non working website from the crappy publisher that thinks people want to read pdfs as their enhanced-pdf and require two other clicks to get a real pdf, during that time the 5 (not kidding look at what those pages load!) trackers are loading...
Re:UC’s termination of Elsevier contract has had limited neg... by asdff on Monday March 08, 2021 @12:18AM (#26382497)
In my experience at least those are edge cases from some super dodgey journals. All the major publishers and journals worth reading work fine.
Re:UC’s termination of Elsevier contract has had limited neg... by ta988 on Monday March 08, 2021 @08:34AM (#26385491)
I'm talking about a major publisher here, Wiley $1.7bn revenue...
Re:UC’s termination of Elsevier contract has had limited neg... by herpderperator on Sunday March 07, 2021 @11:55PM (#26382391)
What's a DOI?
Re:UC’s termination of Elsevier contract has had limited neg... by pizzicato on Monday March 08, 2021 @02:06AM (#26382990)
Digital Object Identifier. It's a permanent URL to avoid link rot, really useful for scientific articles.

https://library.uic.edu/help/article/1966/what-is-a-doi-and-...

Re:UC’s termination of Elsevier contract has had limited neg... by hyperbovine on Sunday March 07, 2021 @08:24PM (#26381454)
Said behavior is not limited to grad students.
Re:UC’s termination of Elsevier contract has had limited neg... by ta988 on Sunday March 07, 2021 @08:25PM (#26381466)
You're right I started with grad students as an example and after rewriting I lost that effect.
Re:UC’s termination of Elsevier contract has had limited neg... by fao_ on Sunday March 07, 2021 @07:06PM (#26381030)
You would have to get a 10 years before / after comparison for it to prove anything. Also, comparing a university against itself is interesting but not at all noteworthy, for bonus points to make the paper actually useful, you could compare against 10 years of traffic from other universities.

But then, Science magazine did a segment on this: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/04/whos-downloading-pir...

Re:UC’s termination of Elsevier contract has had limited neg... by ImaCake on Sunday March 07, 2021 @07:48PM (#26381258)
You don't really need 10 years. Each researcher at UC might be confounded by their local network, but you could argue that is just a casual variable anyway. As for statistical power, UC has >30 researchers and each one of those researchers would access several papers a week. Take the ratio of sci-hub vs non-sci-hub papers accessed per week or month and compare to the month before UC's contract with elsevier ran out. Take the mean and do a t-test. Don't even need timeseries!

I suspect plotting sci-hub/non-sci-hub papers accessed per week for several weeks before and after the contract expiry would dispense with the need for any statistical analysis.

Re:UC’s termination of Elsevier contract has had limited neg... by smichel17 on Sunday March 07, 2021 @08:09PM (#26381368)
Or maybe there's been little noise about the change because everyone was using sci-hub already anyway!

I recently introduced a part-time professor to sci-hub, when he was having trouble getting his vpn connection to work, so he could access a paper in a journal. Open access is just easier.

Re:UC’s termination of Elsevier contract has had limited neg... by sitkack on Sunday March 07, 2021 @08:31PM (#26381493)
Does sci-hub release geographic group-by ? She should, I have a corp all access pass to basically everything, and I still sci-hub.

The racist, classist control of information has to stop. It should basically be a reverse paywall.