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Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by progre on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @06:26AM (#26327043)
https://www.icann.org/registrar-reports/accreditation-qualif...

I doubt that every individual connected to these organizations have a spot free reputation, so ICANN is really putting themselves in a weird position by singling out Sunde.

Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by notahacker on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @06:48AM (#26327203)
I suspect not many of those other registrars are run by people able to use the line "they were also unhappy I was wanted by Interpol"...
Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by chmod775 on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @07:13AM (#26327358)
It's weird to hold that against someone though. Interpol is not judiciary. It's not even proper part of any executive.
Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by ClumsyPilot on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @07:27AM (#26327483)
Guilty untill proven innocent?
Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by notahacker on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @07:46AM (#26327626)
No, guilty as found by a court that handed him an eight month jail sentence. Even if you think that was unfair and his Pirate Bay enterprise was generally a good thing for content discovery, it's unsurprising that an organisation for the administration of intellectual property doesn't consider an enterprise run by someone with a conviction for criminal copyright infringement suitable for its partner list.
Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by toyg on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @07:52AM (#26327672)
But it was 15+ years ago. I guess they don't believe in rehabilitation... Can US companies discriminate on the basis of such ancient history?
Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by withinboredom on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @08:06AM (#26327791)
My [censored, someone close to me] can't even get a passport because of something that happened when he was 20. He's more than twice that age now.
Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by mnw21cam on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @09:37AM (#26328827)
The US (from what I hear) in particular seems to be atrocious at rehabilitation.
Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by lupire on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @09:31AM (#26328737)
Had he ever claimed to be rehabilitated?

He's an active member of a political party named after his criminal enterprise.

You may think he's morally right, but he broke the law and as far as I know never repented his choice.

Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by ClumsyPilot on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @11:18AM (#26330438)
The political party is actually legitimate, is in power in Prague (they run the city) and is an indication that he is now acting legally. So yes.
Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by rakoo on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @09:58AM (#26329150)
So, what's the point of punishment if you can't be rehabilitated anyway ? Why bother deciding on the exact perimeter of a sentence if the only thing that will matter is a boolean ?
Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by notahacker on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @11:00AM (#26330135)
Believe it or not, the criteria for an entity to trust someone enough to grant them the privilege of accrediting them as a domain registrar can be somewhat different from the criteria the state uses to decide whether it is cruel and unusual not to release them from prison. The fact some people can be rehabilitated, doesn't mean that they always are, or that keeping people in jail indefinitely because they haven't said sorry is a proportional punishment/deterrent. The social consensus you're arguing against is that the range of attitudes towards people convicted of crimes shouldn't be as simple as a boolean updating from INCARCERATE to MAXIMUM TRUST on the date they say sorry.
Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by ClumsyPilot on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @02:40PM (#26333301)
Criteria used by the state are examined by an impartial judge, publically, and must be proven beyong reasonable doubt.

Criteria used by ICANN are unaccountable, capricious and prone to abuse of power

The argument is about due process.

Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by loveistheanswer on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @12:31PM (#26331673)
The problem is not their opinion, its their inordinate extrajudicial power to extend punishment indefinitely upon people which have already paid their debt to society, at the behest of corporations.
Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by notahacker on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @02:37PM (#26333255)
Sure, if you consider "concluding someone convicted by due process of offence against IP who continues to ridicule the concept of IP unsuitable for accreditation to administer IP" to be 'indefinite punishment' which seems more than a little hyperbolic.

For related reasons, if you're convicted of creating malware and continue to loudly and publicly defend the principle of creating malware after your release, it's not cruel and unusual punishment if tech companies won't give partner certifications to your software consultancy

Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by Griffinsauce on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @05:01PM (#26335288)
The US doesn't do "rehabilitation", they only do punishment, and it's ad infinitum.
Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by anticensor on Thursday March 04, 2021 @11:54AM (#26344802)
They do rehabilitation but only as a side effect of imprisonment, not intentionally.
Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by jedimastert on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @09:08AM (#26328449)
Yes, yes they can. Felons are second-class citizens in the US.
Re:ICANN Refuses to Accredit Pirate Bay Founder Peter Sunde ... by newsclues on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @06:29AM (#26327058)
He denies that assumption in the Twitter thread