Deno v1.8 – support for WebGPU, private modules, Intl, and much more

Re:Deno v1.8 – support for WebGPU, private modules, Intl, an... by skocznymroczny on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @05:32AM (#26326735)

I've been using wgpu for quite some time (in D, through wgpu-native bindings). What exactly do you find it horrifying? It's much closer to DX12/Vulkan than OpenGL. The main difference is that it introduces the concept of a render pipeline, encapsulating all render state from shaders used, shader input layouts, vertex layouts, depth/stencil states, color attachments, which can be pre-created and then bound with a single API call. It's a big improvement over OpenGL which required you to track the state yourself or pre-emptively restore most of the state to avoid side effects between calls.

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Re:Deno v1.8 – support for WebGPU, private modules, Intl, an... by singularity2001 on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @06:44AM (#26327173)

132 lines for hello world (helloTriangle), just so much boiler plate.

I cannot pin it down but there must be a better way, this looks like the server world before the invention of ruby on rails.

Also magical values in string format:

primitiveTopology: 'triangle-list', const swapChainFormat = 'bgra8unorm'; ...

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Re:Deno v1.8 – support for WebGPU, private modules, Intl, an... by flohofwoe on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @07:31AM (#26327511)

Have you seen a Vulkan "Hello Triangle" in comparison? That's a least a thousand lines of code, and that's with taking shortcuts :)

132 lines isn't really that much for a triangle in any 3D API, except 90's style OpenGL 1.x (which was a nice and convenient API, but also very inefficient).

I'm sure there will be plenty of high-level Javascript libraries built on top of WebGPU which will cater to different philosophies and use cases, and those will also allow a Hello Triangle with fewer lines of code (but also will involve compromises at flexibility or performance).

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Re:Deno v1.8 – support for WebGPU, private modules, Intl, an... by skocznymroczny on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @06:48AM (#26327207)

Does Javascript have enums? I've seen these stringly typed enums often in JS APIs.

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Re:Deno v1.8 – support for WebGPU, private modules, Intl, an... by flohofwoe on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @07:50AM (#26327659)

...at least the native WebGPU C-API has "proper" enums for those.

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Re:Deno v1.8 – support for WebGPU, private modules, Intl, an... by iaml on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @10:41AM (#26329783)

Typescript does have enums

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