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Re:NYTimes Peru N-Word: My side of the story, in four parts by LanceH on Monday March 01, 2021 @02:00PM (#26306679)
Apologies are frequently taken as admission and only fan the flames.
Re:NYTimes Peru N-Word: My side of the story, in four parts by dominotw on Monday March 01, 2021 @02:23PM (#26307018)
Its game over once you apologize. Never seen anyone recover from an apology. Never apologize to anyone who is unwilling to forgive you.
Re:NYTimes Peru N-Word: My side of the story, in four parts by unethical_ban on Monday March 01, 2021 @04:15PM (#26308504)
This sounds like advice from the GOP playbook. "Can't be shamed if you have none".

A sincere apology implies that one truly feels bad about their behavior in some way. If someone truly feels bad about something that has public visibility, they should apologize for that for their own benefit, regardless if the other party accepts it.

Re:NYTimes Peru N-Word: My side of the story, in four parts by dominotw on Monday March 01, 2021 @05:21PM (#26309245)
> they should apologize for that for their own benefit

Whats the benefit though?

Re:NYTimes Peru N-Word: My side of the story, in four parts by unethical_ban on Monday March 01, 2021 @06:17PM (#26309850)
Their image in the eyes of decent people who think like them, who also realize they made a mistake.

I'm talking in the abstract, not about this man.

Re:NYTimes Peru N-Word: My side of the story, in four parts by dominotw on Monday March 01, 2021 @06:35PM (#26310014)
Apologize publicly where 'decent people' can see and adjust their 'image' of you accordingly. I missed the public apology part, i think it was implied in your statment.
Re:NYTimes Peru N-Word: My side of the story, in four parts by thomasz on Monday March 01, 2021 @06:31PM (#26309974)
A lot of these people, including McNeil, have written submissive apologies.

https://twitter.com/marcatracy/status/1357806202277797889/ph...

Re:NYTimes Peru N-Word: My side of the story, in four parts by mc32 on Monday March 01, 2021 @02:58PM (#26307575)
It seems analogous to not asking a dog to do a trick you know it can’t perform.
Re:NYTimes Peru N-Word: My side of the story, in four parts by hojjat12000 on Monday March 01, 2021 @02:02PM (#26306700)
I meant in my personal life. I make a joke, she gets offended. I can spend the next hour explaining the joke and how it wasn't supposed to be offensive. Or I just apologize. Of course, I'm a coward.
Re:NYTimes Peru N-Word: My side of the story, in four parts by tjalfi on Monday March 01, 2021 @02:32PM (#26307149)
There's nothing cowardly about apologizing when you hurt someone's feelings.

If your jokes are frequently poorly received by her then I would consider telling them to other people. Some jokes can be told to anyone but many have a limited audience.

Re:NYTimes Peru N-Word: My side of the story, in four parts by autoditype on Monday March 01, 2021 @02:11PM (#26306828)
> Or I just apologize. Of course, I'm a coward.

You can apologize AND simultaneously it can be true that such other person is also a jerk who purposefully gets offended by stupid things and takes everyone out of context for their own benefit who leads a march to cancel you.

Re:NYTimes Peru N-Word: My side of the story, in four parts by nickff on Monday March 01, 2021 @02:08PM (#26306787)
I don't think that makes you a coward, it just means that you value other things over being 'right'. Some people are obsessed with always 'winning', and don't pay attention to how their fighting can hurt people and relationships.

I obviously don't know you or the specifics of your disagreements, but I think you should be forgiving of yourself.

Re:NYTimes Peru N-Word: My side of the story, in four parts by j4yav on Monday March 01, 2021 @03:49PM (#26308197)
Wow, there's something incredibly heartbreaking about summing things up that way.
Re:NYTimes Peru N-Word: My side of the story, in four parts by mseepgood on Monday March 01, 2021 @02:28PM (#26307099)
Maybe your jokes aren't that good.