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Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by garmaine on Monday February 22, 2021 @07:03AM (#26223536)
The simplest answer is that a bot at twitter initiated the ban, the the low-paid worker who managed the appeal didn't have enough of a grasp of academic English and/or catholic theology to understand that the tweet in question was actually against assisted suicide.
Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by hntrader on Monday February 22, 2021 @07:12AM (#26223601)
That's plausible, but he was also turned down on appeal, which was probably by a different pair of eyes.
Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by wizzwizz4 on Monday February 22, 2021 @07:20AM (#26223653)
Yeah: the first set of eyes. Before then, it's pure automation (afaik).
Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by hntrader on Monday February 22, 2021 @09:57AM (#26225214)
Good point, the appeal may have been the first time a human reviewed the case, I was assuming otherwise.
Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by trasz on Monday February 22, 2021 @08:01AM (#26224007)
Of course it was against euthanasia, why would anyone get banned for being pro euthanasia?
Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by ceejayoz on Monday February 22, 2021 @08:05AM (#26224032)
> why would anyone get banned for being pro euthanasia?

Because it's explicitly against the rules.

"You may not promote or encourage suicide or self-harm." https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/glorifying-se...

Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by 4ggr0 on Monday February 22, 2021 @08:44AM (#26224397)
Euthanasia is an official, assisted(!) suicide. We could technically label it as a plain suicide, but that's not what it is.

It's an official procedure, assisted by doctors, and not allowed spontaneously for everyone.

That would be like saying a limb amputation is illegal to talk about on Twitter, because amputating a limb equals to self-harm.

Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by ceejayoz on Monday February 22, 2021 @09:16AM (#26224775)
I am in agreement that there's a distinction. (I am also an advocate of legalizing euthanasia in a variety of scenarios.)

In my experience, social media moderation doesn't make much room for this sort of nuance.

Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by hntrader on Monday February 22, 2021 @10:07AM (#26225333)
I agree with everything you've said, but the policy for this needs to be thought out very carefully.

Because of suicide contagion, it's not exactly analogous to discussion of limb amputations. Even though discussion of assisted dying/euthanasia isn't the same thing as discussion of specific suicides (as per suicide contagion), the policy still needs to be well considered.

Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by jtbayly on Monday February 22, 2021 @09:40AM (#26225021)
Euthanasia is killing somebody out of "mercy." It does not require the agreement or desire of the person being killed.

It is definitely a step beyond physician-assisted suicide, and the two should not be confused or used interchangeably, though both are morally repugnant.

Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by 4ggr0 on Monday February 22, 2021 @10:24AM (#26225540)
Either your country is handling assisted suicides in a terrible way, or you don't really know what you're talking about, as rude as that makes me sound.

Especially "It does not require the agreement or desire of the person being killed" is absolutely, 100% false.

Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by jtbayly on Monday February 22, 2021 @11:42AM (#26226563)
I'm not talking about laws. I'm talking about the meaning of words. What is it called if a doctor kills somebody out of "mercy," but without explicit consent? An increasing morphine drip that suppresses vital function allowing them to "go peacefully in their sleep" just a bit sooner than would have happened otherwise. This happens all the time.

That's called euthanasia, not physician-assisted suicide. And if we can't acknowledge the difference, we are opening ourselves up to allowing what I described because we already allowed "euthanasia," when in fact what we really allowed was PA-suicide. The fact that both are murder in a moral sense doesn't change the necessity of distinguishing between them.

Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by DanBC on Monday February 22, 2021 @12:06PM (#26226933)
> What is it called if a doctor kills somebody out of "mercy," but without explicit consent?

That's murder.

Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by trasz on Monday February 22, 2021 @08:13AM (#26224101)
Euthanasia is not self-harm, quite the contrary.
Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by hntrader on Monday February 22, 2021 @08:29AM (#26224246)
It is suicide, though, and therefore seems to be against the rules as they're stated
Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by trasz on Monday February 22, 2021 @08:37AM (#26224320)
It could be argued that performing a surgical procedure is harm - after all it destroys various tissues using a knife. But there’s a difference, and it’s the same difference as between euthanasia and suicide.
Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by ceejayoz on Monday February 22, 2021 @10:32AM (#26225627)
It could be argued that Twitter put "self" in front of "harm" for a reason.
Re:Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthan... by ceejayoz on Monday February 22, 2021 @09:14AM (#26224750)
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