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Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by pjc50 on Sunday February 14, 2021 @03:31AM (#26130609)
The collateral requirement was imposed because of the incredibly high chance of the stock simply collapsing again.

Trading halts in response to massive movements aren't unusual either.

Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by stingraycharles on Sunday February 14, 2021 @03:35AM (#26130628)
Was a change in collateral requirement something that was known / codified in some agreement, or was it an ad-hoc decision?
Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by MattGaiser on Sunday February 14, 2021 @03:50AM (#26130692)
> How a clearinghouse judges these risks, and therefore when it makes demands for more upfront funds, is typically formulaic. Margins can be based on equations such as value-at-risk. Exactly how the formula works, and who is responsible for losses in what order, are important elements. In the case of National Securities Clearing Corp., losses would be covered by the defaulting member’s funds before the clearinghouse’s own funds or other members’ funds would be used.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-clearing-demands-grounded-t...

WSJ says that it is formulaic.

Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by ric2b on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @05:38PM (#26159674)
No, they say it "is typically formulaic".

It's quite possible that this time it wasn't.

I'd say it's very likely that it wasn't formulaic this time, since Robinhood's CEO said in an interview with CNBC that we was called at like 4AM, well after markets closed, to deal with the new requirements.

Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by bsanr2 on Sunday February 14, 2021 @12:10PM (#26134015)
Let's take a look at the formula.
Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by ummonk on Sunday February 14, 2021 @04:06AM (#26130764)
It was an ad-hoc decision to go beyond the formulaic requirements.
Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by katbyte on Sunday February 14, 2021 @03:41AM (#26130656)
I've only been sorta paying attention so i could be wrong but trades were not suspended or halted? only buying was prevented, and only for some brokerages?
Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by jimminy on Sunday February 14, 2021 @04:03AM (#26130746)
> Only buying was prevented, and only for some brokerages?

The first part of that has been a common bit of misinformation. Opening new positions (either by attempting to buy shares of the stock, or entering into a new short position) is what was prevented. Closing positions (selling for owners of shares, or in the case of short obligations buying shares) was still allowed as closing reduces credit risk for the broker.

The brokerages that did restrict, were smaller firms and did so to maintain liquidity for all assets, instead of allowing a vast amount of their capital to be consolidated largely into a few assets, due to the increased capital cost of clearing.

Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by lrem on Sunday February 14, 2021 @04:16AM (#26130814)
Hasn't the largest brokerage also restricted?

Edit: OK, I think the list I looked at is wrong. I meant Charles Schwab, but I don't know which one is _actually_ the largest.

Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by jimminy on Sunday February 14, 2021 @04:23AM (#26130843)
It's a fair question. A bunch of the larger guys like Charles Schwab and TD did implement restrictions as well.

In their case, it may not have been a necessity to maintain liquidity for other assets, but capping the exposure to how much capital they were putting down for it probably still made sense.

Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by 3001 on Sunday February 14, 2021 @04:54AM (#26130949)
Charles Schwab did not implement restrictions.They had a banner until last week saying that when you log in.Stop spreading misinformation
Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by jimminy on Sunday February 14, 2021 @05:15AM (#26131045)
> “The bottom line is that clients are still able to trade in GME, but we’ve put some restrictions on certain types of transactions in the interest of helping mitigate risk for our clients,” Schwab said Wednesday in a statement.[0]

They very much did 3 weeks ago. Not to the same degree as the smaller brokerages, but they still put limitations on margin trading, and restrictions on options.

[0] https://www.thinkadvisor.com/2021/01/29/gamestop-lawsuits-hi...

Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by nemothekid on Sunday February 14, 2021 @08:07AM (#26132101)
Schwab’s restrictions came down to:

1. Increased margin requirements for GME 2. Restrictions on naked strategies

Both of these are pretty much acceptable on a very volatile stock. They never prevented you from buying the stock or options. I think including Schwab or TD in this is near misinformation because 99% of users wouldn’t make use of the features that Schwab ended up restricting

Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by 3001 on Sunday February 14, 2021 @01:46PM (#26134926)
Right, can’t short sale and 100% margin requirements. How is that newsworthy or anything to Wimp about.
Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by onedognight on Sunday February 14, 2021 @06:00AM (#26131282)
RH kept you from buying GME; Schwab did not. This is a huge difference.
Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by perl4ever on Monday February 15, 2021 @02:48AM (#26140190)
I think people may be mislead because they are looking back at the published restrictions, but those don't reflect immediately prior, when things were going nuts and brokers, not just Robinhood, were doing stuff without notifying customers.

TDA is a subsidiary of Schwab and was blocking some purchases for some period of time during the week, before they put out a statement that said they "will not prevent clients from making basic buy and sell transactions".

Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by seafoam on Sunday February 14, 2021 @06:26AM (#26131420)
The string "put" does not occur in the article referenced.

Existing restrictions became sizable due to the market volatility. This impacted certain clients of the brokerage that had significant exposure to the names relative to their account.

Not the same thing as the brokerage implementing new restrictions.

Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by derangedHorse on Sunday February 14, 2021 @07:10AM (#26131709)
I think he just posted the wrong link, but there is an article on thinkadvisor with the referenced quote: https://www.thinkadvisor.com/2021/01/28/schwab-td-ameritrade...
Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by csours on Sunday February 14, 2021 @03:46AM (#26130681)
Trades at the exchange level were repeatedly halted over the course of two weeks or so of the most volatile trading.

Trades by certain brokers or apps were also notably halted on a Thursday due to lack of liquidity.

Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by ycombobreaker on Sunday February 14, 2021 @04:03AM (#26130748)
Exchanges repeatedly halted for brief periods, based on predetermined rules. That part was nothing special, it's something like 5 minutes at a time,

Buying to open new positions was blocked by some brokers in response to the the bump in collateral requirements they were required to fulfill. Some brokers were capable of blocking only margin account trading, but RH sounds like they blocked all buyers (plus their target market is margin account holders)

DTCC is basically interested in ensuring that trade settlement occurs. They eliminate a lot of counterparty risk, but the flipside to that is that they clearly have discretion that surprises brokers.

Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by freeone3000 on Sunday February 14, 2021 @03:48AM (#26130689)
It's the collateral increase that caused Robinhood and other no-fee brokerages to halt trading. Brokerages which had the ability to charge for trades simply required more cash on hand and charged slightly more for the trade.
Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by avereveard on Sunday February 14, 2021 @04:03AM (#26130747)
but they blocked stock purchases alongside options, which makes no sense if the justification was collaterals for options
Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by w23j on Sunday February 14, 2021 @06:12AM (#26131343)
Stock purchases are settled after 2 days. If the buyer goes broke before that, the seller would be left holding to bag. To mitigate this risk you need to post collateral.
Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by avereveard on Sunday February 14, 2021 @09:56AM (#26132876)
of course, but if you buy without margin the balance in your account should already be enough to cover the collateral.
Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by gruez on Sunday February 14, 2021 @10:24AM (#26133103)
But it's not the brokerage's money on the line, it's DTCC's. From the perspective of the DTCC, there's no difference between a retail brokerage buying $10M of GME and lehman brothers buying $10M of GME.
Re:Roaring Kitty to testify on GameStop alongside hedge fund... by ric2b on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @05:40PM (#26159702)
But if the brokerage already has your money they can use it to post collateral. And yet they banned everyone from buying. A lot of stuff doesn't add up here.