Even if it is western propaganda, doesn't mean it's false. Just like any Chinese/Russian/etc propaganda might highlight the abuses of the US state. As individuals, regardless of which country we happen to live in, we shouldn't immediately dismiss any country's propaganda (including our own) just because it's propaganda. Does each side have an incentive to exaggerate or lie about the other? Of course! But if abuses are really happening the opposing side would be dumb not to propagandize it.

Even if it's 1/10th the scale people are saying it is indeed still quite horrifying.

What can actually be done against a dictator like Xi Jinping who has absolute power besides using military force? He doesn't care at all about the bad reputation or sanctions or anything else like that.

> He doesn't care at all about the bad reputation or sanctions

Depends on which sanctions. Imagine everyone would stop producing electronics in China...

> which China says exist for the "re-education" of the Uighurs and other minorities.

Even China does not deny the camps. The disagreement almost seems to depend on whether "re-education" is considered sinister. In the West? Obviously. In China? That is apparently a normal thing to admit to doing.

It's only normal in China because if you speak against it you and your family are disappeared. So, not really normal. The CCP can admit to a lot of bad things under these oppressive conditions.

That's a weird word game to play. So you are pointing out that the government supports there own policy? In this potentially makes it not sinister?

Yes, the obviously make an attempt to normalize their policy, just like every government does with every policy. The problem is what they are doing is wrong.

I am surprised that the Chinese government so openly admits to behavior much of the rest of the world finds horrifying.

I was also commenting on how people deny the camps exist even when the Chinese themselves admit they exist.

The chinese government did deny most of the camps for a long time and only after repeatedly confronted with overwhelming evidence to the contrary changed their tune to widespread (re)education camps.

> I am surprised that the Chinese government so openly admits to behavior much of the rest of the world finds horrifying.

They don't admit it, they whitewash atrocities by saying the camps are for "re-education".

Which, if you look at the history of "re-education", is still horrifying.

Anyone sold by the "re-education" line is not looking at the history.

It is sinister because re-education camp is a euphemism for concentration camp.

It's probably that whole "dumb" humanistic concept of choosing your own path in life rather than the government choosing it for you.

Again you accepted the single sided story that those re-education camp are forced upon them.

Why do you ask this question?

Usually, internment camps are bad.

Meanwhile, there is true testimony.

Also, why are Uyghurs singled out?

Obviously this isn’t about poverty.

You say true testimony, I say single sided story. Uyghur separatists contributed too.

BTW, years ago western media liked Tibet separatists AKA Dalai Lama, now they found a new pet.