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Re:Robinhood is said to draw on bank credit lines amid tumult by PragmaticPulp on Thursday January 28, 2021 @07:39PM (#25951910)
> If this is about people trading on RH on margin, then just... stop allowing people to use margin to trade GME etc. "If you wanna buy GME you gotta have the cash in your account to cover it".

All Robinhood accounts default to Reg T margin accounts.

The entire UX is built around this idea that the margin is transparent to end users. How many Robinhood users are aware that when they open an account, transfer money, and buy stocks all in the same day they're actually buying on margin? The cash isn't in their account until the bank transfer settles.

Likewise, when Robinhood users hit sell and then use the funds to re-buy another stock or back into the same stock, they're buying on margin. Technically the first sell doesn't clear for several days, so the subsequent purchase is made on margin.

This frenzy surely pushed the limits of Robinhood's available credit lines to support all of this margin activity.

Meanwhile, clearinghouses everywhere are increasing collateral requirements for stocks like GME. If Robinhood was struggling to secure additional credit while also facing increased fees for trading stocks like GME, they may have had no choice but to either pause the entire platform (to avoid running afoul of SEC-mandated margin requirements) or pausing meme stocks while they figured out another solution.

> Why in the world would you expect RH to act in the interest of their users

If the whole platform blows up because they go insolvent, that's even worse for the users.

Re:Robinhood is said to draw on bank credit lines amid tumult by rurp on Thursday January 28, 2021 @08:53PM (#25952596)
>How many Robinhood users are aware that when they open an account, transfer money, and buy stocks all in the same day they're actually buying on margin?

Maybe I'm out of touch but I would guess the answer is "most". Having to wait a couple days for money to clear after being transfered to a financial institution is extremely common.

When I first deposited on RH and saw that the money was available for trading immediately my first thought wasn't "Oh the money cleared instantly", rather it was "Wow, I'm surprised they're willing to take on that risk with new accounts". Turns out, maybe RH should have given that risk a little more thought.

Re:Robinhood is said to draw on bank credit lines amid tumult by roywiggins on Thursday January 28, 2021 @09:07PM (#25952726)
I would wager that the people who signed up for Robinhood this week were thinking "oh, sweet, they figured out how to let me fund an account fast, aren't apps great"
Re:Robinhood is said to draw on bank credit lines amid tumult by rfurmani on Friday January 29, 2021 @12:49AM (#25954488)
It’s not just about funding your account, it’s every single trade. When you sell a stock and then immediately buy another one, the cash from your sell doesn’t actually land for a few days.
Re:Robinhood is said to draw on bank credit lines amid tumult by swimfar on Thursday January 28, 2021 @08:14PM (#25952249)
"when Robinhood users hit sell and then use the funds to re-buy another stock or back into the same stock, they're buying on margin. Technically the first sell doesn't clear for several days, so the subsequent purchase is made on margin."

This seems like a key piece missing from lots of explanations I've read. Thanks.

Re:Robinhood is said to draw on bank credit lines amid tumult by PragmaticPulp on Thursday January 28, 2021 @08:23PM (#25952338)
Robinhood has a little note during new account setup about how your account will default to being a margin account.

They don't show any of the details on the main screens after that, though.

Normally, it doesn't matter because Robinhood eats the tiny margin cost for the customer. They make up for it by selling the order flow. This only works as long as interest rates are low and, importantly, they can get enough credit to cover it all.

In times of unprecedented volatility and unprecedented risky trading behavior, securing that debt becomes non-trivial. Robinhood's debtors have no desire to be left holding the bag if something blows up.