Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by fredliu on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @12:19PM
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Great explanation. IMO the GameStop phenomenon is the result of the combination of democratization of trading through software (Robinhood no fee trading, doing it on your cellphone) + social media enabled mass scale online community building (around some previously fringe niche). Any area that is subject to this kind of combination of change could face similar situation where the old institutions guarding the area would face increasing challenge from grass root efforts ("retards/autistics" as in wsb's lingo).
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @06:36PM
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There is a third factor: a generation of investors who have never really lost money in the market.
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by Cyph0n on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @06:51PM
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I don’t think it’s about that at all. If you follow the subreddit at all, you’d see that WSB investors have been losing immense amounts for a long time now.
I think the primary thing that baffles the more traditional investing establishment is how irrational WSB investors actually are.
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by mckirk on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @08:15PM
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Amazingly, it seems actually possible that WSB can remain irrational longer than some Hedge Fonds can stay solvent.
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by qeternity on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @07:07PM
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/r/wsb are not the prototypical Robinhooder who have followed on behind them.
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by guywhocodes on Thursday January 28, 2021 @02:07AM
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The mean dollar through Robinhood probably comes from a WSB:er tho
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by qeternity on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @07:06PM
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So much this. I cut my teeth in commods which are still very much two way markets.
But the equity crowd hasn't seen any real volatility until March of last year and the Fed promptly stepped up to backstop the entire regime.
I have friends who own TQQQ like it's dumb not to...and they're right.
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by fredliu on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @08:19PM
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I think there have always been potential "investors" that never really lost money because they were never investors in the first place. Lots of Robinhood, r/wsb users/members are 1st time traders because Robinhood significantly lower the barrier to entry for investing, and they don't feel as alone and scary once found an online community similar to themselves.
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by zinclozenge on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @12:11PM
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I didn't watch all the videos, but so far as I write this post, it does not appear that shorts have covered, or started covering (at least as of this morning). It seems like the price hike is due to big buyers and gamma squeezes. There's been systematic short attacks in an attempt to drive the stock down, but they keep getting neutralized by big buyers. It's been a wild ride.
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by toomuchtodo on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:15PM
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Short interest is still over 100 after today’s close. Watch for the gamma squeeze on Friday.
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by herpderperator on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @04:48PM
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Melvin Capital did.[0]
[0] https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/27/hedge-fund-targeted-by-reddi...
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by jowsie on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:26PM
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You sure about that?
https://www.reddit.com/r/stocks/comments/l64xvw/gme_dedicate...
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by __turbobrew__ on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @06:07PM
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What is stopping Melvin Capital from lying about closing their position in order to deflate the stock price so they can actually close out their short position when they are due this coming Friday?
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by imtringued on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @06:12PM
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Yeah that is basically it. If you are safe why report on it? You don't gain anything. If you are in danger then a little lie doesn't hurt because even a tiny chance of success could mean billions of dollars for you.
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by melq on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:31PM
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Couldn't they close their position and still have the short interest go up because of other investors opening new positions?
If these institutions are going on record as closing their positions, when they actually havent, aren't they committing some sort of fraud?
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by ordinaryradical on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:45PM
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If you follow this in more detail you will see they have already misled the public on their positions several times. But when the choice is between your fund’s bankruptcy and an SEC fine, people do crazy things.
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by edlebert on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:50PM
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Also the borrow fee for shorts is insane now, like 23%.
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by FabHK on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @10:33PM
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Annualised? If so, that's peanuts.
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by wyxuan on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @12:05PM
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I lost my respect for Rossman after he uploaded a video cursing out short sellers after $AGRX sunk after getting approved. Bio stocks almost always sink after PDUFAs, but he was just raging after what he thought was market manipulation.
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by IIAOPSW on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @12:24PM
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I was disapointed in some of his videos about Coronavirus and Cuomo's executive orders. But then I remembered that he is neither a stock trader nor an epidemiologist. His channel is fundamentally an opinion show. Its a good opinion show, but still an opinion show. When he starts giving opinions on things far outside his wheelhouse he becomes a more-rational-than-average lay person.
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by tracker1 on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @06:09PM
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I think he is mostly just genuine about his opinion on things and explaining why he holds those opinions. Per peer post on his intellect. Which I agree is generally a rational wat to approach things and I respect him for it.
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Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by paulpauper on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:04PM
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I call them 'professional morons'--high-profile who have a lot of status and money and clout in various tech and investment fields despite being sorta dim and banal
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by throwaways885 on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:55PM
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Rossmann is hardly rich. His whole brand is fighting Apple for right-to-repair legislation as well as a bunch of pro small business stuff. What exactly is wrong with this opinion on the oppressive covid lockdowns?
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by paulpauper on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @06:01PM
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I was not referring to him specifically
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by teekert on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:12PM
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This is gold, it's things like this situation and then such people explaining it that teaches me more about the market than any other dry material I have ever found before.
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by kylebenzle on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @12:16PM
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Just SO pumped that library is being used in the real world to host videos!
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by cstrat on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:35PM
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I'm unable to watch any of them, only the first few seconds loads. Hopefully they can improve because this is terrible
Re:GameStop Is Rage Against the Financial Machine
by FooHentai on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @04:32PM
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I tried to watch the first video and it stopped after 13 seconds, insisting the video was complete. Refreshes didn't fix it.
So I just went and watched on Youtube instead. Not sure what the deal was there.
https://lbry.tv/@rossmanngroup:a/wallstreetbets-vs-citron-re...
https://lbry.tv/@rossmanngroup:a/why-mainstream-media-s-slan...
https://lbry.tv/@rossmanngroup:a/gamestop-shorts-lose-billio...
https://lbry.tv/@rossmanngroup:a/gamestop-shorts-are-full-of...
(That's how I learned about the whole thing, which I frankly find fascinating.)