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Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by mrkwse on Friday January 15, 2021 @07:14AM (#25790006)
People don't tend to hug their hobs though...
Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by pletnes on Friday January 15, 2021 @07:18AM (#25790057)
Hobs output >2 kW, phones just... don’t (edit: i.e range of magnetic field is longer)
Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by archi42 on Friday January 15, 2021 @08:14AM (#25790557)
I'd expect the "receiver"/pot to deform the field enough as to not matter anymore at those distances. Plus, inductive hobs around here tend to detect the presence of a pot and not just try pumping 2kW of energy into "nothing". And you're comparing a dynamically pulsed EM field with the static M field of the alignment magnets - they might be able to heat the reed, but might just not be able actually trigger it (edit: to clarify, that's my guess; I'd expect manufacturers of either devices [ICDs and hobs] to test for potentially lethal problems).
Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by antihero on Friday January 15, 2021 @07:22AM (#25790093)
How many people put their phone in their "upper pockets"? Or even have "upper pockets"?
Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by em10fan on Friday January 15, 2021 @07:26AM (#25790129)
Many men?

If you are wearing a suit, a smartphone makes the trouser pockets bulge a lot, so it's common to keep it in your shirt pocket or jacket inside pocket - Both of which is next to your heart.

Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by Maxious on Friday January 15, 2021 @07:33AM (#25790181)
The FDA [1] advises "don’t carry the phone in a shirt or jacket pocket directly over the pacemaker." as well as the American Heart Association [2] "Avoid keeping your cell phone in your front chest pocket."

1: https://www.fda.gov/radiation-emitting-products/cell-phones/... 2: https://www.heart.org/en/health-topics/arrhythmia/prevention...

Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by foepys on Friday January 15, 2021 @07:40AM (#25790242)
They can advise as much as they want, people just do it anyways.

Same with smoking, drinking, taking drugs, etc.

Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by netsharc on Friday January 15, 2021 @10:11AM (#25791816)
One hopes people with a device keeping them alive would have an incentive to follow instructions, especially if it doesn't involve addictive substances. They also get told to avoid metal detectors, and they know to do this, so it's probably, hopefully, an easy habit to change
Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by antihero on Monday January 18, 2021 @03:50PM (#25826474)
I just realised after posting this that I wear a denim battle vest 99% of the time and this does in fact have an upper pocket. Oops.
Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by Mauricebranagh on Friday January 15, 2021 @08:36AM (#25790763)
And quite a lot of shirts do as well.
Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by tzs on Friday January 15, 2021 @09:06AM (#25791056)
Perhaps it is time for the codpiece to make a comeback in male business attire, updated for modern times to include a phone pouch.
Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by virgil_disgr4ce on Friday January 15, 2021 @10:09AM (#25791782)
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Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by Jap2-0 on Friday January 15, 2021 @07:34AM (#25790191)
My grandfather always does.

He doesn't have a pacemaker, but it may not be as unreasonable of a thing as you might assume.

Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by notacoward on Friday January 15, 2021 @09:30AM (#25791313)
You mean like in an inside jacket pocket in parts of the world where it actually gets cold? A lot.
Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by manicdee on Friday January 15, 2021 @07:26AM (#25790131)
You mean the one the pocket protector goes in with your drafting pencil and calculator (well, phone in this day and age)?
Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by mankyd on Friday January 15, 2021 @08:56AM (#25790952)
I do. I don't leave it there generally, but its often easier to get my phone in and out of my shirt pocket when I am seated, crouched, or otherwise actively engaged with something and I don't want to stand up.
Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by JohnBooty on Friday January 15, 2021 @11:06AM (#25792393)
A lot of newer (like, last 5-6 years?) jackets have an outer upper chest pocket.

ex: https://oldnavy.gap.com/browse/product.do?pid=3397220020504&...

It's the most convenient place for a phone on your person.

Easier than pants pockets if you're sitting down. No fumbling with inside jacket pockets. And you can use your "normal" jacket pockets to keep your hands warm without worrying about your phone falling out.

Re:Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets by ajuc on Friday January 15, 2021 @10:19AM (#25791903)
Winter coats very often have upper pockets and they are perfect for big smartphones.