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Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by mgreenleaf on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:30AM (#25631036)
Your post reminded me of my recent encounter with the phrase "damning with faint praise". It is interesting how applicable it is in authoritarian governments; you can't simply praise, you must give enthusiastic encomiums. That is particularly interesting in business, where it may be obvious to business leaders that something is wrong, but anything lackluster brings about government condemnation, which is part of the problem the business people can see. Startup founders are usually sharp, rebellious individuals trying to upend current business practices, so the condemnations damper the business spirit to some degree.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damning_with_faint_praise)

Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by netsharc on Monday January 04, 2021 @10:16AM (#25632317)
Reminds me of the legend that the first person to stop clapping for Stalin in a meeting would be arrested, interrogated, and executed for treason.
Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by abecedarius on Monday January 04, 2021 @12:38PM (#25634921)
That was an episode in The Gulag Archipelago. (I'm not sure how factual that makes it. I don't doubt it illustrates a real dynamic.)
Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by trumpeta on Monday January 04, 2021 @09:18AM (#25631594)
I mean, I get the same feeling from Apple events, everything is constantly the best ever.
Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by coldtea on Monday January 04, 2021 @10:23AM (#25632414)
Compared to other companies that present new products with something like "this year we've made a product worse than what we had before"?
Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by acct776 on Monday January 04, 2021 @11:05AM (#25633083)
Haven't been following Macbook quality much, huh?
Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by coldtea on Monday January 04, 2021 @04:27PM (#25638322)
I'd reverse the question.

Keyboard design aside (which was fixed a year ago, and wasn't a poor production standards/cheap materials, etc. issue, it was a BS make-it-thinner-design issue), you mean the best built laptops in the industry, or the CPUs, battery, etc. with universal praise (M1)?

Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by mordymoop on Monday January 04, 2021 @09:30AM (#25631744)
The worst possible condemnation of a powerful national government: to compare its normal everyday functioning to a corporate product launch. Orwell was too optimistic.
Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by toxik on Monday January 04, 2021 @09:45AM (#25631916)
Eh, it was just a more relatable example. If anything, it shows you that our idea of oppression is Apple overstating their product's capabilities.
Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by zepto on Monday January 04, 2021 @11:49AM (#25633901)
The Orwellian part is people talking as though it’s a fact that Apple is overstating something.

As far as I can see that’s bullshit.

They say what they are measuring, and people do check it.

They’d be open to straight up legal action from both customers and shareholders if they were lying.

Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by mhh__ on Monday January 04, 2021 @10:22AM (#25632403)
The Orwell's of the future will be writing about China and western social media (and a bit of Apple thrown in there)
Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by ekianjo on Monday January 04, 2021 @11:05AM (#25633086)
> everything is constantly the best ever.

Not just the best ever, always 3x or 300% better according to fake benchmarks that nobody can audit. It's beyond Marketing, basically propaganda.

Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by ksec on Monday January 04, 2021 @01:37PM (#25635892)
>Not just the best ever, always 3x or 300% better

Well that is the new / recent Apple. Steve rarely use these technical benchmarks with specific numbers and only talk about the experience or it is being faster, better.

Now it is just a more polished event Keynote which felt the same as Google event in that they were prepared by tech people for tech people.

Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by amelius on Monday January 04, 2021 @11:31AM (#25633558)
"It's Magic!"
Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by zepto on Monday January 04, 2021 @11:46AM (#25633836)
They indicate what they are comparing in the smallprint and they do get audited by people like AnandTech or Ars.

So far, every single time, they have been shown to be accurate.

Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by ekianjo on Monday January 04, 2021 @01:19PM (#25635583)
> They indicate what they are comparing in the smallprint

(smallprint) * tested in very specific condition X that does not reflect at all everyday usage of 99.9999% of users.

(The tech media) Apple did it again with 300% perf increase! Mad engineering!

That's just legal department finding a way to make propaganda harder to challenge. It's still propaganda in effect.

Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by zepto on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:06PM (#25640616)
The fact that you are using a made up exaggeration doesn’t help your point.

They don’t in fact make exaggerations like that, otherwise you’d be able to quote a real one.

Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by sangnoir on Monday January 04, 2021 @04:28PM (#25638340)
Accurate, with an asterisk (i.e. technically true, but intentionally misleading), which results in headlines like "No, the new Arm MacBook Air is not faster than 98% of PC laptops" when they are "audited".
Re:China: The Disappearing Millionaires (2019) [video] by zepto on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:04PM (#25640600)
"No, the new Arm MacBook Air is not faster than 98% of PC laptops"

The piece with that headline is about the only thing that has been audited and found to be false.

Search for commentary anywhere on that piece and you’ll find it has been completely debunked.