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Re:How to overcome Phone Addiction by originalvichy on Saturday January 02, 2021 @07:40PM (#25618188)
I definitely have a browsing addiction. Learning things as an information junkie is addictive. What’s funny is that when I go for trips in the mountains with little to no internet I do fine. It is less like a chemical addiction and more like a habitual craving. If I have more interesting things to do I will not browse. If I’m bored though...
Re:How to overcome Phone Addiction by dead_neopets on Saturday January 02, 2021 @09:46PM (#25618868)
Habits are related to our environment. Your brain is probably wired to your current living arrangements and taking a vacation- with the added caveat that you know you have no internet- means no behaviors. This is why people can easily get sober in rehab and then come home and instantly relapse.
Re:How to overcome Phone Addiction by _huayra_ on Sunday January 03, 2021 @03:06AM (#25620386)
I actually used this tactic to break some habits when I moved. New living place did not trigger the same habits as the prior one, so long as I was careful to not "install" them again...
Re:How to overcome Phone Addiction by varrock on Sunday January 03, 2021 @03:25AM (#25620446)
I experienced this. When I moved, my sloppiness and classiness improved tremendously. However, I've recently started to notice it getting back into its old ways now that I'm more settled. The benefit is that I'm much more aware of it, and am able to recognize it and address it instead of never noticing it to begin with.
Re:How to overcome Phone Addiction by andai on Saturday January 02, 2021 @09:49PM (#25618881)
Reminds me of the experiments on rats, where they couldn't even convince them to try heroin (-laced water) if they were living in a natural environment, whereas the rats stuck in cages became addicted to heroin immediately.
Re:How to overcome Phone Addiction by latexr on Saturday January 02, 2021 @11:02PM (#25619310)
For anyone interested in learning more, search for “rat park”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_Park
Re:How to overcome Phone Addiction by wisty on Sunday January 03, 2021 @01:38AM (#25620021)
Extraordinary results, but even the author's graduate student had difficulty replicating them.
Re:How to overcome Phone Addiction by rsanek on Sunday January 03, 2021 @01:25AM (#25619969)
and be sure not to miss the Criticisms section of that Wiki.
Re:How to overcome Phone Addiction by greggman3 on Sunday January 03, 2021 @02:26AM (#25620210)
Sadly that fun story was mostly discredited
Re:How to overcome Phone Addiction by swayvil on Sunday January 03, 2021 @01:05AM (#25619896)
>Learning things

Ha ha! That is a VERY generous way to describe it.

I think of it as licking my balls. I think that's more realistic.

Re:How to overcome Phone Addiction by ksec on Sunday January 03, 2021 @09:29AM (#25621949)
> I definitely have a browsing addiction.

I agree. I think what most people have are "News" or information Addiction. Where as news is any update on Social Media, Current Trends on Pop, Music, Movies, Tech, Politics, Economics etc.

There were a few research paper suggesting News being the biggest addiction, much more so than porn. And Smartphone addiction is by nature an extension of this news addiction.

Did my Idol post something on IG?

Did my soccer / football team sign a new centre back?

Did Apple finally released a new Keyboard with more travel distances?

Did X finally win the election?

Did TSLA just broke though the channel and continue their gain in stock market?

New Covid Variant?

Is there a confirmation email for my job? Or you know somehow you are expected to reply your email within 30min with your current employer.

A lot of these are preying on our human curiosity. And Smartphone is only a Terminal, where Internet / Mobile Network is the connection. It is the same before Smartphone with Internet on PC, or good old fashion TV.

We dont have an addiction to any of these devices, we have addiction to those content. And it has been like for that decades, blaming everything on Smartphone is simple and easy enough. But doesn't really help with the real problem.

Re:How to overcome Phone Addiction by zikzak on Sunday January 03, 2021 @09:40AM (#25622007)
This is how I got hooked. As someone who grew up pre-internet (realistically speaking) my brain learned to live with libraries, paper calendar, tasks lists on pads of paper, etc. Also, not knowing if someone called until I got home (and not having answering machines or, sometimes, not having a phone in the apartment I lived in, or TV).

When I got access to the Internet, the idea that I could learn things easily, or have a digital calendar, or write messages just removed so much friction. I was working as a cook but getting back into programming as a hobby at the time (started as a kid with BASIC on Commodore computers then didn't have a computer for almost ten years). I first used the K&R book to learn C but the Internet provided access to things outside the scope of the book.

Then, working as a programmer a few years later, I told my boss I'd hit a stretch goal if he got me an iphone to replace my flip phone. I use Android now, it was a different time. :)

Once I got that, it was 24/7. I'm finding balance now but it's tough. I am concious of my six year old always seeing me and emulating my behavior.

Re:How to overcome Phone Addiction by Sargos on Saturday January 02, 2021 @09:47PM (#25618870)
Are you learning specific things for a passion, hobby, or job or learning random facts and TILs?
Re:How to overcome Phone Addiction by throwaway77_a on Sunday January 03, 2021 @12:45AM (#25619802)
I’m not the OP, but for me it’s a mix, usually aligning more toward the latter, just like this post which was delivered to me as a notification.
Re:How to overcome Phone Addiction by originalvichy on Sunday January 03, 2021 @05:38AM (#25620970)
Some of it definitely is TIL triggered reading, but most of it is news related ”keep up with the world”.