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Re:Four-day week means 'I don't waste holidays on chores' by foobiekr on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @03:36PM (#25585780)
A parallel experiment would have been to do the same informally - just work four days a week and "work" from home one day a week refusing to take meetings/oncall on that day - and see if anyone really noticed.

The megacorp I have spent large amounts of time at actually seems to have a significant population of people with this informal arrangement with mixed opinion on the part of their management mostly based on how close they are to a realist position.

Re:Four-day week means 'I don't waste holidays on chores' by domano on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @03:40PM (#25585830)
This sounds like a good way to get fired
Re:Four-day week means 'I don't waste holidays on chores' by gabereiser on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @04:07PM (#25586124)
It has to be supported by the culture. If your culture is one where you must be in the office at all times this wouldn’t fly. When I managed large teams I allowed this on a few conditions.

1) Work/Delivery can’t suffer. No decrease in velocity because of some work/life balance. This is easily measured and padded with a +\- 5%.

2) Accountable. If you have things you are accountable for and they aren’t done yet, better get that homework done.

3) If your an engineer, we pay you to think, not to sit in a chair. The “office” benefits are communication, collaboration, and contemplation. If you can achieve that with cohesion with the team then +1 I’m all for it!

The ‘70s white collar management style doesn’t really work well for productivity in 2020. It makes unhappy employees which makes people leave. If you enjoy interviewing people by all means, continue that oppression. If you value your employees and their innovation they bring to your company (or your department, or team) then you should practice servant leadership and remove any blockers from them being able to bring their best work to the table.

Re:Four-day week means 'I don't waste holidays on chores' by domano on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @04:31PM (#25586373)
I agree, but i am sure that inofficially not working for 1 day a week would get you fired in a megacorp, even if you perform the same or better.

How did you communicate this to upper management or was it don't ask/don't tell?

Re:Four-day week means 'I don't waste holidays on chores' by gabereiser on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @04:41PM (#25586486)
In colorado it’s common for active folk to get a jump on the weekend. How I communicate this up is through metrics and reporting of progress and goals, not lack of bodies in chairs. Focus on the value. My above rules still apply but I also like to snowboard when it’s not crowded.
Re:Four-day week means 'I don't waste holidays on chores' by domano on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @05:13PM (#25586800)
I guess corporate leadership methodology is a bit behind in germany (where i live), but I totally agree and think that results should speak for themselves.
Re:Four-day week means 'I don't waste holidays on chores' by benhurmarcel on Thursday December 31, 2020 @07:51AM (#25592180)
I work in a megacorp, and nothing happens if you don't produce anything for a day. Nobody notices anything.

But you do have to be available for calls or meetings.

Re:Four-day week means 'I don't waste holidays on chores' by unethical_ban on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @04:02PM (#25586067)
They didn't say "don't work" - which believe me, plenty of people especially in COVID have gotten away with - they said "Don't take calls". And like the parent, my department has a similar take on it. The majority of the team avoids meetings and calls if their role at all allows it.
Re:Four-day week means 'I don't waste holidays on chores' by gibolt on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @03:43PM (#25585859)
I had this arrangement at a megacorp for several years. It really is great to have no expectations on that one day 'at home'.

Also opens up visits to regional parks and activities outside the weekend, which means no crowds and sometimes cheaper tickets.