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Re:Ask HN: What are you surprised isn’t being worked on more? by NewLogic on Monday December 28, 2020 @07:44PM (#25565244)
The XPS 15 is basically that laptop and is only hamstrung by dell being slow to move to Ryzen 4000 mobile chips. Mobile intel runs hot and slow.
Re:Ask HN: What are you surprised isn’t being worked on more? by NationalPark on Monday December 28, 2020 @08:01PM (#25565367)
Of the 5 XPS line laptops I've had, 2 had component failures that required replacement under warranty (drives and ports) and one had a hinge that failed just after the warranty ended.

As if that weren't frustrating enough, redeeming the warranty required about five hours total of phone conversation per incident. At every step of the way, they would demand I repeat dozens of irrelevant troubleshooting steps, or they would tell me the problem isn't covered (contradicting the last person I'd been handed off to), or they'd tell me it isn't covered but if I agree to pay to extend the warranty by another year then many he can ask his manager to backdate it and squeeze this in, etc. etc. As you might be able to guess, it's all sales/lies/incompetence and eventually I got through to someone high enough up to initiate the replacements under warranty.

Of the many Macbooks I've had, only one ever had a failure that required service. I just scheduled a time to drop the computer off, then picked it up a week later and it was fixed, didn't have to argue with anyone about my warranty.

Also - in my opinion - the XPS may be the best build quality of non-Apple laptops, but it's not even in the same league as a similarly priced macbook.

Re:Ask HN: What are you surprised isn’t being worked on more? by ENGNR on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @08:30AM (#25569563)
Had the exaaaact same experience

Horrible horrible support. Incredibly frustrating doing all of the steps on phone support to even get someone to come out. They advertise it as better than an Apple store, but after the first year you have to mail it in with a two week repair delay

I now use a MacBook with zero issues, while the XPS never worked properly (they forgot thermal paste after the first repair) and it died entirely after barely 2 years. Huge waste of money

Re:Ask HN: What are you surprised isn’t being worked on more? by worik on Monday December 28, 2020 @10:04PM (#25566293)
Golly. What a horrid story. In my country I think the commerce commission would have their guts for garters if they tried that sort of malarkey.

What jurisdiction is this, that they can get away with not properly honouring warrantees?

Re:Ask HN: What are you surprised isn’t being worked on more? by TwoBit on Monday December 28, 2020 @09:25PM (#25566012)
How is the buikd quality not in the same league?
Re:Ask HN: What are you surprised isn’t being worked on more? by social_quotient on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @05:25AM (#25568496)
I agree, (GP) how is the dell XPS and similarly precision m5xxx not in the same league as the Mac?
Re:Ask HN: What are you surprised isn’t being worked on more? by eitland on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @07:30AM (#25569102)
Haven't had more than one Mac, but I've had a couple of XPS machines and there were always something odd.

Just another anecdote but they kind of add up, just like the stories about the butterfly keybord on Mac.

That said, personally I don't use Macs as I've given up adapting to the CMD-tab behavior (and misplaced fn/ctrl etc) after trying hard for about three years.

Re:Ask HN: What are you surprised isn’t being worked on more? by TheGuyWhoCodes on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @05:21AM (#25568468)
Dell made so much noise about their cooling chamber for the new XPS but forgot to actually do QA. They forgot to provide a working power brick. It didn't provide the advertised wattage (100 not 130) and even if it did actual workstations go with 230W. The trackpad was also broken for most people.
Re:Ask HN: What are you surprised isn’t being worked on more? by Klonoar on Monday December 28, 2020 @07:53PM (#25565314)
I'm sure some people like the XPS 15, but having tried it, I don't believe that it fits here - and honestly, I've not found _any_ Dell hardware to have fit and finish remotely close to a MacBook.
Re:Ask HN: What are you surprised isn’t being worked on more? by izacus on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @05:20AM (#25568461)
Then you have very strange standards, the XPS 13 I have at home can easily compete with 13" MBP and outshines it in several areas. Especially having a sturdy build quality and a good keyboard.
Re:Ask HN: What are you surprised isn’t being worked on more? by Klonoar on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @07:50AM (#25569257)
The latest MBPs have the same, and outperform it. This isn't really debatable at the moment.
Re:Ask HN: What are you surprised isn’t being worked on more? by TwoBit on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @03:42PM (#25574694)
After Apple's ongoing keyboard debacle and that stupid strip, I don't see how you have much credibility.
Re:Ask HN: What are you surprised isn’t being worked on more? by Klonoar on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @03:59PM (#25574935)
What?

It's no longer "ongoing", as it was fixed and has been for some time. This is noted elsewhere in this thread, too. You can't try to claim someone has no credibility then wade in with incorrect facts.

The TouchBar is bad and I wish they'd remove it, yeah.

Re:Ask HN: What are you surprised isn’t being worked on more? by izacus on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @08:12AM (#25569427)
Huh, it's not? Why exactly?