Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii

Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by dpe82 on Sunday December 27, 2020 @08:54PM (#25556000)

I was raised as a pretty conservative American protestant and went to religious school where a lot of our study covered history (as recorded in the Bible) of Israel and surrounding areas. As a result I felt some connection to it; I suspect this phenomenon is a driver behind the American religious right's unwavering political support of the modern State of Israel.

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Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by cmrdporcupine on Sunday December 27, 2020 @09:12PM (#25556085)

I was also raised in this manner, but in the 80s and it seems in a time before the state of Israel itself seemed to be considered a 'friend' of the evangelical movement. I understand this shifted significantly later, or maybe it just took longer to come to Canada. It was far more ambiguous, and tinged with a lot of anti-Semitism; like Jews now were something apart from and different from the Hebrews in the old testament -- and that Jews themselves were tainted with the rejection of Christ.

But yes, we got a lot of middle eastern history; big fascinating archaeological sections in the appendix of my Bible. But of course it all ended in around 100 AD, with no mention of anything after, really. And it of course put a lot of emphasis on the land of Israel, which in the real world of the ancient near east was really a minor player surrounded by Egypt, the Hittites, Assyria, etc.

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Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by varjag on Monday December 28, 2020 @05:01AM (#25558012)

The major component of Evangelical obsession with Israel is seeing it as fulfilment condition for the coming Rapture. Nothing to do with liking Jews much.

Just a waypoint on death cult checklist.

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Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by throwaway765299 on Monday December 28, 2020 @10:24AM (#25559866)

I grew up in an evangelical church, I still attend evangelical churches, and yet oddly the only time I hear that I and my fellow Evangelicals support Israel is due to a death cult wish for the rapture is when people outside the faith are explaining the beliefs of my fellow parishioners to me. Odd that.

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Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by varjag on Monday December 28, 2020 @12:07PM (#25560868)

A 2017 LifeWay poll conducted in United States found that 80% of evangelical Christians believed that the creation of Israel in 1948 was a fulfillment of biblical prophecy that would bring about Christ's return and more than 50% of Evangelical Christians believed that they support Israel because it is important for fulfilling the prophecy.

This also suggests that 50% would disagree with that, but 1 in 2 is plenty.

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Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by gerikson on Friday January 01, 2021 @02:33PM (#25606001)

I found this book very interesting - it's about "outsiders", mainly American citizens, working in Israel to put the jigsaw puzzles in place to bring about the Apocalypse. For example, by recreating the ceremonial horns used in the Temple, and by breeding a perfect red heifer.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27467.The_End_of_Days?ac...

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Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by cmrdporcupine on Monday December 28, 2020 @05:26AM (#25558120)

Yes and I do feel like this particular interpretation of the content of Revelations, etc. seems fairly new.

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Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by varjag on Monday December 28, 2020 @05:52AM (#25558220)

Possibly it took off with advent of televangelism?

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Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by dpe82 on Tuesday December 29, 2020 @01:45AM (#25567388)

Evangelical, perhaps, but I was raised Lutheran. My particular synod didn't spend a whole lot of time with the Book of Revelation.

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Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by oblio on Monday December 28, 2020 @05:33AM (#25558146)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HzZBYOPn26o

Shirvan is quite neutral so it's worth a watch.

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