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Re:The Internet Is for Porn by ralph84 on Sunday December 20, 2020 @06:27PM (#25490602)
Feminism stigmatized keeping a house functioning. “Barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen” became a slur thrown at women who had the nerve to not serve a corporate master.
Re:The Internet Is for Porn by api on Sunday December 20, 2020 @06:43PM (#25490704)
One of my rules is: society always over-corrects. I think it’s because bombast and mockery gets more attention than rational and balanced thought.

We went from “women can’t do what men do” or “women should never have careers because it’s bad for the family” to “any woman who stays home is letting herself down,” or is stupid, etc.

How about this: women who want careers can have them, women who don’t can stay home, and both are okay because people have the right to choose their course in life.

Re:The Internet Is for Porn by Anthony-G on Sunday December 20, 2020 @07:56PM (#25491062)
I’m not going to downvote because it’s true there are feminists (including second-wave feminists who fought the really tough political struggles) who have shared the view that working in the home / building a family has less value than that of earning a wage / building a career.

However, feminism is a (very) broad church and the majority of feminist that I’ve come across would argue for legislative and other societal barriers be removed so that a woman is free to choose between motherhood and career – or whatever balance works best for her own inclinations and circumstances.

Re:The Internet Is for Porn by worik on Sunday December 20, 2020 @10:53PM (#25491985)
"would argue for legislative and other societal barriers be removed so that a woman is free to choose between motherhood and career"

Empowering for men too. Patriarchy is harmful to everybody

Re:The Internet Is for Porn by Chris2048 on Sunday December 20, 2020 @10:29PM (#25491887)
> However, feminism is a (very) broad church

and yet, feminists will talk about feminism in overall positive terms without qualification. If it's a broad church, it can't be all positive.

Re:The Internet Is for Porn by worik on Sunday December 20, 2020 @10:54PM (#25491987)
They do, do they?
Re:The Internet Is for Porn by Chris2048 on Monday December 21, 2020 @06:45AM (#25494015)
yes.. anything useful to add?
Re:The Internet Is for Porn by worik on Monday December 21, 2020 @01:58PM (#25498129)
Very useful to tell feminists what they are doing.

We are useful by default.

They have to prove themselves

Re:The Internet Is for Porn by Chris2048 on Monday December 21, 2020 @05:01PM (#25500144)
Hard to tell what you mean.

Talking about feminists then "We are useful", I might assume you are a feminist, but switching between 1st and 3rd person.

Or, you say "We are useful by default" as if from the other perspective (i.e. mine). If so, hard to tell if you are responding to me specifically, or some "HN crowd" generally; in either case, yes, feminists have to prove themselves, or specifically their ideology. And no, I haven't said anything about "useful by default", that's your strawman.

I think you're being sarcastic, in which case your whole post is just a bad-faith, low-effort dismissal. It'd be useful if you'd respond less cryptically.

Re:The Internet Is for Porn by worik on Monday December 21, 2020 @07:20PM (#25501448)
It is important to explain carefully to feminists exactly what measure of feminism they can actually maintain as satisfactory.
Re:The Internet Is for Porn by Chris2048 on Monday December 21, 2020 @09:01PM (#25502059)
Hmm, sorry, are you talking to me?

None of what you say follows from my post at all. Unless you think "responding cryptically" is a form of feminism.

Re:The Internet Is for Porn by GoblinSlayer on Monday December 21, 2020 @04:05PM (#25499522)
It's required by emancipation. Men who didn't prove themselves are useless too. And not only through words, but deeds too.