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Re:California plan for wealth tax on anyone who spends 60 da... by eatbitseveryday on Saturday December 19, 2020 @10:57AM (#25478176)
How do I benefit from a country while not being in it?
Re:California plan for wealth tax on anyone who spends 60 da... by JacobDotVI on Saturday December 19, 2020 @11:14AM (#25478316)
The US Marines have been known to evacuate US citizens from foreign countries if war breaks out. Think of your taxes as an insurance premium for global personal safety.
Re:California plan for wealth tax on anyone who spends 60 da... by nradov on Saturday December 19, 2020 @11:21AM (#25478379)
In theory if you get kidnapped by terrorists or something then the US government might try to rescue you.
Re:California plan for wealth tax on anyone who spends 60 da... by throwaway13337 on Saturday December 19, 2020 @12:54PM (#25479417)
Kidnapped Americans have much worse outcomes on average than other country citizens.

This is because the US makes it illegal for families to pay ransoms.

As with most things international, not being American is an asset in such a situation.

https://www.newamerica.org/international-security/policy-pap...

Re:California plan for wealth tax on anyone who spends 60 da... by herbst on Monday December 21, 2020 @08:00AM (#25494510)
If i moved away from the us because i misstrust them or whatever reason why would i care about their rescue?

I never thought about my born Country is going to help with anything as i moved away and pay taxes somewhere else. I rather be rescued to “home“

Re:California plan for wealth tax on anyone who spends 60 da... by nradov on Monday December 21, 2020 @08:39AM (#25494796)
In that case you should probably renounce your US citizenship. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-lega...
Re:California plan for wealth tax on anyone who spends 60 da... by trisiak on Saturday December 19, 2020 @12:15PM (#25478984)
Country's passport has a value in itself. The one from the US enables you to leverage international travel treaties and visa arrangements. Just answering your question, not making a point on whether taxation is the correct way for US to "cover" for those benefits.
Re:California plan for wealth tax on anyone who spends 60 da... by scrose on Saturday December 19, 2020 @11:05AM (#25478240)
Well, in the US, one benefit is being able to freely travel to many other countries without needing to go through a months long visa application process.
Re:California plan for wealth tax on anyone who spends 60 da... by herbst on Monday December 21, 2020 @08:01AM (#25494516)
My european passport opens a lot more doors, yet i dont pay taxes to the EU as i dont live there.
Re:California plan for wealth tax on anyone who spends 60 da... by throwaway98797 on Saturday December 19, 2020 @11:01AM (#25478203)
US embassies are in many countries.
Re:California plan for wealth tax on anyone who spends 60 da... by herbst on Monday December 21, 2020 @08:02AM (#25494526)
Any embassy is in pretty much any country? Assuming a semi rich western country
Re:California plan for wealth tax on anyone who spends 60 da... by ceejayoz on Saturday December 19, 2020 @11:00AM (#25478201)
The right to return and still be eligible for things like Social Security and Medicare.
Re:California plan for wealth tax on anyone who spends 60 da... by ryan_j_naughton on Saturday December 19, 2020 @11:10AM (#25478281)
Your social security benefits are derived, in part, from how much you paid in on your top earning years. Thus, if you didn't pay in you would have very very very little social security (which is already too small of a benefit to live off of). Thus, I don't think there is a moral hazard of social security that would cause people to return to the US for those benefits. They could amend the law (not sure if it's specifics) that you have to pay in a minimum amount if you want to be paid out while living in another country. Simple fix to remove any poorly aligned incentive.

Medicare is much trickier as every American over 65 is entitled to it, but I'm not sure how that coverage works if you live outside the US.

Re:California plan for wealth tax on anyone who spends 60 da... by NonEUCitizen on Saturday December 19, 2020 @11:27AM (#25478432)
Social Security is not tied to US citizenship. A foreigner who has worked in the US enough years (and paid into Social Security during those years) can move back home and receive Social Security benefits upon retirement.
Re:California plan for wealth tax on anyone who spends 60 da... by herbst on Monday December 21, 2020 @08:03AM (#25494529)
I have that too with an EU country i was born in. Yet i never paid taxes or anything to there