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Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by zstring on Friday December 18, 2020 @03:18AM (#25464985)
I am surprised that no one talked about Apple's hypocrisy here. They will not be showing any of these warning to any of their application.

If they are really interested in privacy then they should be doing for all the applications including their own.

Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by tpetry on Friday December 18, 2020 @03:23AM (#25465012)
Are they doing? Is the books or podcast app harvesting information for better app store ads?

This is an honest question! I have not yet seen any hint for this, but that does not mean they dont do it.

Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by Klonoar on Friday December 18, 2020 @04:45AM (#25465482)
I've interviewed with the iCloud/CloudKit teams and I'm reasonably certain that the way they dogfood it internally means that they use the same setup we do, where the same ID isn't persisted across applications.

People like to claim that Apple gets a free pass here but they legitimately do seem to build their apps more or less silo'd, as they should be.

If you want the soundbite: if Apple tracked you across apps, their recommendation systems (be it app store or whatever) wouldn't royally suck. But they do. ;P

Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by lovecg on Friday December 18, 2020 @05:48AM (#25465857)
> If you want the soundbite: if Apple tracked you across apps, their recommendation systems (be it app store or whatever) wouldn't royally suck. But they do. ;P

It’s honestly a breath of fresh air. There’s no sleazy salesman vibe that comes with a lot of overly personalized recommendations.

Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by djxfade on Friday December 18, 2020 @03:31AM (#25465053)
Analytics is still allowed in iOS. The problem with Facebooks approach, is that they link that data with cookie tracking, making them able to track you around on all websites and apps that integrates a login with Facebook, or a share and like button.
Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by toper-centage on Friday December 18, 2020 @03:43AM (#25465111)
They can do it because the user is logged in in all those apps. It's the same apple ecosystem. The problem is really that Facebook tracks you outside their ecosystem. App developers and website marketers have been willing to sell out their users to Facebook and Google in return for some analytics.
Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by polyomino on Friday December 18, 2020 @04:00AM (#25465202)
In return for more effective ads.
Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by l31g on Friday December 18, 2020 @03:29AM (#25465047)
Apple posts the same information for their apps on the App Store.
Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by tchalla on Friday December 18, 2020 @03:35AM (#25465076)
Apple won’t show this warning to any apps that don’t track you across apps and websites, including theirs. Where’s the hypocrisy?
Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by NietTim on Friday December 18, 2020 @03:31AM (#25465056)
You're making a few assumptions here. Apple apps work in all the same ways that other apps do, they have no special privileges. And these rules aren't only for facebook, they are for all apps, so including apple apps. Where is the hypocrisy?
Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by zstring on Monday December 21, 2020 @01:55PM (#25498091)
ohh if that's not the case then I am sorry for the calling Apple an hypocrite.

can you point me to some links which tells that it will be same for the Apple.

Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by echelon on Friday December 18, 2020 @03:32AM (#25465066)
Apple might be good for privacy (against 3rd parties - Apple still has your info), but they're terrible for freedom.

If you value your freedom and liberty, this is hypocritical. Apple benefits from their revenue stream not being dependent on advertising, but they're just as unjust in locking down their devices and preventing competition and open computing.

At the end of the day, I think lack of freedom is worse than eroded privacy. They're both bad, but freedom is essential.