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Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by jankotek on Thursday December 10, 2020 @05:21AM (#25372054)
Not so funny with modern IoT, maybe firmware upgrade is needed or restart wireless router :)
Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by bombcar on Thursday December 10, 2020 @08:08AM (#25373261)
People used to laugh that "reboot your phone/car" was humorous, now "reboot your lightbulb" is a real action that has to be taken at times.
Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by segfaultbuserr on Thursday December 10, 2020 @09:49AM (#25374200)
One quote from the list of BOFH excuses (of the early 2000s, https://gist.github.com/chuckwagoncomputing/ff980f81482b5894...) was:

> Firmware update in the coffee machine

It isn't funny any more...

> https://support.smarter.am/hc/en-us/articles/115005135369-My...

> In case your Smarter Coffee machine has become stuck while updating, please follow the steps below to manually perform the firmware update...

- Turn product off at the wall.

- Press and hold the 2 left buttons on the control panel.

- Turn the power on at the wall and keep holding the two buttons for 10 seconds.

- The "Update" screen should then appear. (Check this has appeared on the screen, good news if it has!)

- Connect to the "Update" network and wait for it to connect. (Check that the signal bars at the top of the iPhone screen are there, this can take up to 55 seconds)

- Open the Smarter app

- Select "update" firmware either via the 'pop-up' or from the 'About' page

- Select 'next', it will take you to the page where it tells you to connect to update network.

- Close and open the app ONCE.

- Press next

- It should update...

- Once it reaches 100%, the coffee machine screen will say "Loading" while it reboots.

Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by keeganpoppen on Thursday December 10, 2020 @09:42PM (#25381637)
alright, that's it-- can we just burn it all down to the ground and start over?
Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by yetihehe on Friday December 11, 2020 @07:30AM (#25385002)
Regarding that burning - my home wood pellet furnace needed software updates after installation to start fully working. Good luck that I had mobile internet available.
Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by segfaultbuserr on Friday December 11, 2020 @11:09AM (#25387306)
> needed software updates after installation to start fully working

Not too bad, at least it's a one-time job, better than some IoT thermostats that crash randomly in winter midnights and freeze everyone to death (figuratively)...

> https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/fashion/nest-thermostat-g...

> Nest Thermostat Glitch Leaves Users in the Cold

> The Nest Learning Thermostat is dead to me, literally. Last week, my once-beloved “smart” thermostat suffered from a mysterious software bug that drained its battery and sent our home into a chill in the middle of the night.

Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by toast0 on Thursday December 10, 2020 @01:32PM (#25376765)
Sometimes you need to factory reset your lightbulb which is a simple process

Quoted from https://support.gelighting.com/hc/en-us/articles/36001580519...

Bulb Reset Sequence:

We recommend counting with Mississippi (1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi, 3 Mississippi, etc.).

Start with your bulb off for at least 5 seconds.

    Turn on for 8 seconds 
    Turn off for 2 seconds
    Turn on for 8 seconds
    Turn off for 2 seconds
    Turn on for 8 seconds
    Turn off for 2 seconds
    Turn on for 8 seconds
    Turn off for 2 seconds
    Turn on for 8 seconds
    Turn off for 2 seconds
    Turn on
Bulb will flash on and off 3 times if it has been successfully reset.

TIP: If the factory reset above was unsuccessful, you might have an older version of the C by GE bulb. Please follow the instructions below to reset.

Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by coldpie on Thursday December 10, 2020 @10:30AM (#25374699)
Given the state of modern software, it blows me away that anyone is dumb enough to buy that junk. I work with computers all day, the last thing I want is more of that hassle in my life.
Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by yetihehe on Thursday December 10, 2020 @08:00AM (#25373197)
After debugging configuration error for last 7 days, where even logs didn't help because manufacturer decided to use reference clock from different pin which was not documented officially to be able to do this - moder IoT sucks, because chip manufacturers release documentation as confidential and then firmware is implemented by hardware guys. As a programmer who can design some simple digital circuits, I could very mean things about HW guys doing SW/Fw, but I can see how much my HW skills suck and how funny my designs look from the other side.
Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by rusk on Thursday December 10, 2020 @12:42PM (#25376226)
What I’m finding is the components themselves are so cheap ... if you’ve a little knowledge you can rig up your own IOT setup that you actually have control over for pennies. Raspberry Pi is a great place to start.
Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by yetihehe on Friday December 11, 2020 @07:22AM (#25384946)
You are VERY underestimating knowledge required to do this. Most people don't even know what is an ip address (and google wants to even remove url bar). How will they setup a server to control their devices?
Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by rusk on Friday December 11, 2020 @04:26PM (#25391236)
I’m not talking most people. I’m saying what little knowledge I have on this topic has saved me hundreds if not thousands on my home setup and I have complete control over it
Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by jankotek on Thursday December 10, 2020 @08:12AM (#25373293)
In IoT only one person is needed to change a light bulb. But it will take 7 days of soldering, debuging and reverse engineering :)
Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by drran on Thursday December 10, 2020 @08:47AM (#25373616)
Clean room reverse engineering requires two.
Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by clankyclanker on Thursday December 10, 2020 @09:21AM (#25373941)
Don’t forget the lawyer required to vet the process.
Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by folmar on Thursday December 10, 2020 @04:59PM (#25379323)
I have a rubber stamp so I can vet anything myself.
Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by djeiasbsbo on Thursday December 10, 2020 @12:28PM (#25376047)
Oh you get to control your IOT smart lamps with a command line tool and not a proprietary iOS app with a login gate? Fancy.
Re:How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb? by rusk on Thursday December 10, 2020 @12:40PM (#25376195)
My house came with a prehistoric Lightwave setup that lets me send commands to my lights over UDP. Glorious stuff.