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Re:Liquidity Is Coming by JumpCrisscross on Friday December 04, 2020 @03:05AM (#25300121)
There is a multibillion dollar secondary market for private shares. It is ignored because it undermines this pitch.

That market is fragmented and disorganised and inefficient. But it’s deep, cross border and growing. Issuers write their own transfer policies which range from nope to fully permissive. The former aren’t interested in something like this because they aren’t focussed on shareholder liquidity. The latter don’t gain anything from forcing shareholders to only do business through Carta. (If they do want to do all that work, they can just do a tender. It is cheaper. And has no lock-in.)

This is a product in search of a problem.

Disclosure: I work in the private markets.

Re:Liquidity Is Coming by SirHound on Friday December 04, 2020 @03:08AM (#25300144)
> It is fragmented and disorganised and inefficient.

Sounds like you've found the problem

Re:Liquidity Is Coming by JumpCrisscross on Friday December 04, 2020 @03:10AM (#25300151)
Forcing a single venue for an issuer doesn’t solve that. If anything, it isolates that issuer’s securities thereby furthering the fragmentation—it’s a gift for anyone in a position to arbitrage.
Re:Liquidity Is Coming by lucasverra on Friday December 04, 2020 @03:20AM (#25300211)
He seems to argue that "it' not a bug ,it's a feature" TM
Re:Liquidity Is Coming by dblock on Friday December 04, 2020 @11:03AM (#25303801)
Private markets take 3-5% of a deal, require a 3-way contract, and thus won't do anything below $100K. They are indeed fragmented, disorganized and inefficient. If Carta can solve that, great.
Re:Liquidity Is Coming by JumpCrisscross on Friday December 04, 2020 @05:54PM (#25309428)
> Private markets take 3-5% of a deal

In my experience, spreads are closer to 1 to 5%. The upper end of that spectrum dominates in the trading employees' shares, however, so there is a fair point here.

That said, CartaX isn't comparable to the open secondary markets. The latter are continuous. CartaX is periodic.

The better comparison is Nasdaq Private Markets, who offer a similar tender offer platform. Last time I checked, they charge a fixed fee plus something like $500 per trade. Compared with this, the 2% CartaX charge is only competitive for <$25,000 transactions.

> won't do anything below $100K

This is generally correct for open market trades. (Though folks like EquityZen are pushing the envelope on minimum transaction sizes.) It is not true for tenders.

CartaX looks like a pricier Nasdaq Private Markets. Perhaps that premium--and the ongoing disclosure requirements and lock-in--is worth paying for some issuers.

Re:Liquidity Is Coming by ajcodez on Friday December 04, 2020 @10:24AM (#25303255)
It sounds like Carta is marketing to early employees and not to accredited investors. There will be quick product market fit if employees prefer to join companies listed on CartaX. I have offer A that is liquid, and offer B that is not liquid, etc
Re:Liquidity Is Coming by _marlowe_ on Friday December 04, 2020 @01:28PM (#25305875)
An orderly secondary market could increase 409a valuations and result in a higher exercise price for stock options.

Seems like senior execs don't have much incentive to accommodate that...

Re:Liquidity Is Coming by naveen99 on Friday December 04, 2020 @10:35AM (#25303398)
I am having difficulty following your former and latter references.
Re:Liquidity Is Coming by amasad on Friday December 04, 2020 @06:23AM (#25301155)
What are examples of those secondary markets?
Re:Liquidity Is Coming by derwiki on Friday December 04, 2020 @10:14AM (#25303100)
Shares post
Re:Liquidity Is Coming by fishcakes on Friday December 04, 2020 @09:21AM (#25302447)
You said it perfectly. Agree 100%