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Re:“I've had to relearn coding to get through the new interv... by gumby on Friday December 04, 2020 @01:07AM (#25299521)
> I feel investing anything more than the bare minimum to get your assigned work done is worth less than just grinding leetcode and otherwise studying for interviews. Doing an actual good job, above and beyond, is not going to be worth much when you're looking for your next job.

I feel precisely the opposite: if you work somewhere with people you like working with (and who like working with you) then you will start to get hired through your network, not through your mad leetcode skillz.

That's what networking really is, not "networking sessions" or various going through the motions you'll hear described in a seminar. It's simple human connections from people saying "Hey, I'd like to work with decafninja again" or "Oh, you need a frobnitz expert? You know, I know someone called decafninja who might be able to help you."

Re:“I've had to relearn coding to get through the new interv... by an_opabinia on Friday December 04, 2020 @01:20AM (#25299582)
No dude, I’ve been burned by exactly what that poster described. Being well networked just gets your application opened. The leetcode is what gets you hired.

The people who would hire me without leetcode were either trying to take advantage of me or have never been my coworkers.

As another commenter said: Leetcode, leetcode, leetcode.

Re:“I've had to relearn coding to get through the new interv... by meheleventyone on Friday December 04, 2020 @02:37AM (#25299951)
I think it really depends on how and where you get referred. Bigger companies are likely to be process heavy and inflexible.

My last three interviews and job moves have all been from referrals or old colleagues. None had coding challenges and all resulted in job offers. But that was a small satellite team for a big org and two early stage startups.

It’s also a consequence of timing and luck though. I’d definitely be prepping harder for job hunting.

Re:“I've had to relearn coding to get through the new interv... by decafninja on Friday December 04, 2020 @09:07AM (#25302318)
I've gotten lots of referrals from old colleagues and bosses, but as the previous poster has said, all that has resulted in is opening the door to an leetcode interview.

Also timeframe is significant too. I'd say 5-10 years ago, fewer companies (especially outside the tech industry) were leetcoding candidates. Now, many of those same companies (including my current) are all leetcoding candidates.

Re:“I've had to relearn coding to get through the new interv... by baq on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:35PM (#25305232)
FAANG are doing it, what more proof do they want...

i used to like computers. not so much anymore.

Re:“I've had to relearn coding to get through the new interv... by toomanybeersies on Friday December 04, 2020 @09:26AM (#25302501)
I have a (metaphorical) rolodex filled with contractors who I've enjoyed working with, which I will always check first before even thinking about ringing an agency.
Re:“I've had to relearn coding to get through the new interv... by decafninja on Friday December 04, 2020 @11:28AM (#25304171)
I have a friend/ex-colleague who I would describe as a master networker. He has connections all over the NYC investment bank and hedge fund IT department world, and can literally call a few people up and get "a" well paying job at a hedge fund in a matter of hours. Some of these connections are billionaire CEOs/fund managers.

The caveat to this is that he has to be extremely unpicky. Said job can be very undesirable other than the compensation - stuff like feeding XML feed files or working with VB, etc. But because they are at hedge funds, they all still pay well.

Re:“I've had to relearn coding to get through the new interv... by tonyedgecombe on Friday December 04, 2020 @02:14AM (#25299829)
This is what I did for the first half of my career. It worked well for me because I worked in the same domain for my whole career. Shifting into consulting was easy because I had an address book of people who knew and trusted me.

I'm not sure if it would still work though as I've been working for myself for 22 years. It seems hiring has turned upside down since I last interviewed.