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Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by eschneider on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @02:27PM (#25280373)
Does it flag me as an old that the last thing on earth I want to do is check work messages/docs from my phone? There's a concept of 'checking out for the day and going home' that's important to not going crazy, especially now. If something goes wrong, or there's an emergency, folks have a number they can text/call. But constantly check messages? No way.
Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by alistairSH on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @02:36PM (#25280515)
Maybe I'm old too.

I used to keep work email and calendar on my personal phone. A few years later, I disabled the email because it distracted from life. I leave the calendar simply to let me know when I have an early meeting (my day normally begins at 9, but work with teams in India, so occasionally have earlier meetings).

Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by kls on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @03:10PM (#25280921)
I gave up a phone, 4 years ago due to the fact that I am involved in anti-child trafficking and while it is not a grave risk, the reality is there are bad people that traffic in children and the less trackable I am, the more that risk profile goes down.

Anyways, that is just backstory to say, getting rid of my phone was the best thing I ever did, I have a burner with a few hundred minutes on it, in my truck for emergencies but I honestly never use it.

A good deal of people could actually untethered themselves from their phone dependency and actually find out that they enjoy it a lot more than being leashed to one.

Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by giantg2 on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @03:17PM (#25281009)
I'd probably be fired if I didn't have a cell.
Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by dylan604 on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @04:11PM (#25281701)
Then the company better being paying/providing said cell to you. If a company requires something to be used, they need to provide it.
Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by giantg2 on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @04:19PM (#25281798)
They won't ever admit it. It's like if you were hiring someone: most people won't hire someone who doesn't have a phone number because that would be an inconvenience to them, but they can always make up another excuse for why not to hire the person.
Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by kls on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @07:57PM (#25283923)
Fortunately in my line of work it's not that uncommon to have anything other than a burner phone and even then a lot of people don't even have that. I went completely without one for about 2 years and then decided to get a burner when I had to walk back to my house to get some tools to fix an issue with my truck. Figured I at least needed one for those kind of situations.
Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by neura on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @02:45PM (#25280634)
That's my point of view. I definitely want the information available on my phone, but I never want it to interrupt me. Even if I get a slack message during the day, for example. To me, part of getting older is the more frequent "was that meeting tomorrow morning at the crack of dawn or the day after tomorrow..." and I don't want to go check my laptop. ;)
Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by lambda_obrien on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @02:56PM (#25280770)
I don't even have my full calendar on my personal phone, I just share the "busy" status calendar as a public calendar then subscribe to it on my phone. I can see when my first meeting is, but nothing else!
Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by seppin on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @03:32PM (#25281175)
I wish there was a cal sync different from mail and the rest. Having to login to a secure device to check meetings for the next morning in an annoying ritual.
Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by alistairSH on Thursday December 03, 2020 @07:05AM (#25288061)
My office allows the standard iPhone apps to connect to Exchsnge. I don’t see a profile installed on the phone. As far as I can tell, the only change is a required PIN (which I would have anyways).
Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by stronglikedan on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @03:16PM (#25280993)
I'm in the middle. I have developers that work whenever they feel like it, and they email me with questions at all hours. I like to be there for them when I can (but I don't feel bad when I can't).

I've set up my email client on my phone, so that it only notifies me if one of my developers emails me. I use the VIP feature of Samsung's email client, which seems to be unique to that specific client, since I haven't been able to find another with it. I can check the email (if I can), and decide to answer right away (if I can), or just snooze the notification for later.

Everyone else can KMA after hours. Or text, if it's an emergency - but they better say what the emergency is in the text, or they may not get a reply.

Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by avery42 on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @04:32PM (#25281929)
> I've set up my email client on my phone, so that it only notifies me if one of my developers emails me. I use the VIP feature of Samsung's email client, which seems to be unique to that specific client, since I haven't been able to find another with it.

Maybe not quite as simple to set up, but you should be able to get something similar on most clients with a folder and a filter. I've done this for some of my important/urgent folders, with K9-Mail set to only show notifications from those folders (notification class).

Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by tylerfontaine on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @05:14PM (#25282433)
Readdle's Spark mail client for iOS/MacOS has many of these features. Doesn't help for your samsung, but in case any other iOS folks are scrolling by. :)
Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by giantg2 on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @03:16PM (#25280998)
This is my mentality. Sadly it means I'm only a midlevel after 8 years. Apparently I don't have enough dedication to move up the ladder since I don't have Teams on phone and don't work 9+ hours per day.
Re:Google illegally spied on workers before firing them, US ... by Rebelgecko on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @08:09PM (#25284014)
If you're forgetful like me, it's really helpful to be able to check what time the first meeting is tomorrow when I set my alarm before bed.

Now that work from home is a thing, I also like having an standard way to communicate with work and be at least partially productive in case my laptop dies. I have my Do Not Disturb settings set so that the work profile doesn't show me email or chat settings outside of work hours on weekdays so I can start email triage during my morning bowel movement if I want, but it won't nag me if I'd rather spend that time in quiet contemplation.