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Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by ipieter on Monday November 30, 2020 @10:15AM (#25254553)
As a Belgian, I was looking in horror at that recipe. Why would people put sugar on their fries?!

So I'm glad you like the Belgian fries. What I've always learned to be key is that we fry our cut potatoes twice: once at 140°C, wait for them to cool down, and once at 175-180°C. Then you add salt, that's it.

And the mayo: I don't think many people like it like that when they eat fries at home, but it's easy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by phonypc on Monday November 30, 2020 @11:07AM (#25255194)
>Why would people put sugar on their fries?!

FWIW, they're brined in a solution containing sugar, it's not like there's sugar sprinkled on them. Very little of it makes it into the final product and in my experience brined fries aren't perceptibly sweet in an obvious way. It assists with browning and a crunchy exterior.

Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by klodolph on Monday November 30, 2020 @11:30AM (#25255514)
Some years ago a different “MacDonalds french fries” recipe was posted, I think it did the rounds on HN, and it was much more like the recipe you describe: fried twice and cooled between, no sugar, add salt.

There are some other variations, like blanching the potatoes with vinegar, or freezing the potatoes overnight between frying. The idea is to make them crispy on the outside and soft on the inside.

Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by vbsteven on Monday November 30, 2020 @10:41AM (#25254867)
There is something very weird with mayo from a Belgian "frituur". I love it, I usually order mine with mayo on top, wrap them with paper and let it soak in on the drive home. Makes the fries delicous. And I order an extra packet of mayo on the side because they usually don't put enough on top.

But, in any other situation if mayo is involved I'm grossed out to the point of puking. Even when I just smell the mayo (from the same brand) someone is putting on their plate of vegetables or whatever.

Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by kuu on Monday November 30, 2020 @10:41AM (#25254877)
do you remove them from oil when raising temperature? What kind of oil do you use?
Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by jimbauwens on Monday November 30, 2020 @10:55AM (#25255051)
Yes, you remove them completely from the oil and let them rest a bit. Mostly the fries are baked in 'fat' rather than oil though. Besides this, the type of potato that is used is pretty important too, as its consistency will impact a great deal too. The potatoes we use at home are called 'bintjes', they are a bit 'flowery'.
Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by porknubbins on Monday November 30, 2020 @11:10AM (#25255240)
Yes, when double frying you remove fries from the oil and allow moisture near the surface to evaporate so it becomes tacky. For oil any common oil works but saturated fats get fries crispier. Even oven roasted potatoes in ghee and can almost get a french fry crunch. Duck fat is next level. Obviously much slower than frying.
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Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by tartoran on Monday November 30, 2020 @11:15AM (#25255292)
As an European transplant I confirm that. And American sweets are absolutely loaded with sugar, it overwhelms all other flavors and tastes. My naive pet theory is that in order to cover up the use of lower quality ingredients or substitutes they’re flooded with sugar. That also creates an addictive effect so sales jump up
Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by wmil on Monday November 30, 2020 @11:55AM (#25255872)
That's probably part of it, but there's also some history.

The southern US used to produce a lot of sugar. Before refrigeration it was heavily used as a preservative.

So there's a big market that expects things to have a lot of sugar in them.

Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by mywittyname on Monday November 30, 2020 @12:12PM (#25256115)
It's also cheap in the US (in the form of HFCS) and smashes that dopamine receptor with a fucking wrecking ball.

Europeans would absolutely eat sugar in the same volumes if it were as cheap there as it is in America. As with most of the cultural differences between the regions, a lot of it comes down to economics: if gas were cheap in Europe, they'd also drive big SUVs; if land were as cheap in Europe, they'd have McMansions; etc.

Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by Symbiote on Monday November 30, 2020 @06:53PM (#25260595)
Sugar (in the form of sugar) is cheaper in Europe than sugar or HFCS in the USA.

£0.65/kg in Tesco in the UK, 7.5kr/kg ($1.20) in Føtex in Denmark, but $1.80/kg at Walmart. Corn syrup at Walmart is more expensive, $2 a pint, but presumably cheaper in bulk packaging. (Last time I was in the USA, I saw an entire freight train of tank cars full of HFCS.)

(You'll also note that plenty of rich Europeans prefer large "normal" cars, like Audis, BMWs, Mercedes etc, and a nice apartment in the middle of a city.)

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Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by Spivak on Monday November 30, 2020 @11:19AM (#25255362)
That's super reductionist. Balancing salty and umami with sweet is so common that you should be surprised that it took so long to realize that adding it directly to the fries makes sense.

BBQ sauce is full of sugar. Ketchup too. People dip their fries in ice cream. Chocolate dipped pretzels work on the same principle. As does candied bacon and apple grilled cheese. Your Thanksgiving Honeybaked Ham is glazed in a sweet sauce. Turkey and cranberry sauce are a match made in heaven. Bacon and maple syrup were practically made for each other.

Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by jfim on Monday November 30, 2020 @07:23PM (#25260814)
He's not incorrect about there being sugar in many things in the US, though. I've had to start reading labels a lot more after moving to the US, since some of the products I've used at home actually do have sugar added in the American version.

For example, this pasta sauce has sugar in the American version (https://www.classico.com/product/00041129077023/italian-saus...) but not the Canadian one (https://www.kraftwhatscooking.ca/brands/classico/product/cla...). The funniest thing about it is that the Canadian version still says "Product of USA" on the jar, they just cut out the sugar for that market.

Some of the local foods in the US also have off the charts levels of sweetness, such as southern sweet tea and sweet potato casserole with marshmallows. Bread and pizzas also tend to be on the sweeter side in the US.

Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by phonypc on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:05PM (#25268591)
Those sauces are just different, though similarly named. The calories, sodium and fibre values are different, one contains cheese where the other doesn't.

Sugar is not uncommon in commercial pasta sauce, even in Canada.

Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by fnord123 on Monday November 30, 2020 @11:36AM (#25255608)
> Murica. Everything has sugar in it.

> That's super reductionist... [list of American foods (or foods that aren't american but are extremely popular there, as in ketchup) with sugar added to it]

You didn't do much to dispell the idea that this is an American thing.

Maybe salted caramel pralines. But sour and sweet is a common flavour trope in much of the world. e.g. lemon + sugar e.g. in cannoli; tamarind and cane sugar in SE Asia and Mexican recipes; Chinotto.

Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by phonypc on Monday November 30, 2020 @12:04PM (#25256010)
Prosciutto e melone, brie en croute, fruit and cheese/cured meat in general, duck a l'orange, pad thai. Sweet + salty/savoury foods are definitely not uncommon throughout the world.
Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by buckminster on Monday November 30, 2020 @12:09PM (#25256064)
Sure, you can find this flavour combination anywhere, but I don't know of another country that uses sugar to the extent America does. I ordered a fried breakfast in an American hotel and they put icing sugar on the sausages! It's bizarre.
Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by phonypc on Monday November 30, 2020 @02:52PM (#25258105)
Did the breakfast come with pancakes or waffles? Maybe the sugar was intended for those but some missed. I don't doubt there are people who enjoy sugared sausages, but for a restaurant to sugar their sausages unasked is something I'd expect most Americans to find odd as well.
Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by buckminster on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @11:34AM (#25266696)
Overspray from something else on the plate would have been obvious. Maybe it was overspray from someone else's plate.

But after a few days in America I wasn't that surprised. It was just another thing with added sugar for no reason.

Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by vonmoltke on Monday November 30, 2020 @05:45PM (#25260008)
> I ordered a fried breakfast in an American hotel and they put icing sugar on the sausages!

That is not normal, and it isn't fair to extrapolate your single experience to be so.

Re:My Hunt for the Original McDonald’s French-Fry Recipe by reaperducer on Monday November 30, 2020 @07:00PM (#25260646)
I ordered a fried breakfast in an American hotel and they put icing sugar on the sausages!

I've had hotel breakfasts in 48 states. Nobody puts sugar on the sausages.

You probably had pancakes on the plate and some of the sugar got on the sausages during sprinkling.