NYC Paid McKinsey $27.5M to Stem Jail Violence. Instead, Violence Soared

Re:NYC Paid McKinsey $27.5M to Stem Jail Violence. Instead, ... by Quekid5 on Sunday November 29, 2020 @01:52PM (#25247067)

"We"? I think a lot of the Scandiwegian countries already decided that rehabilitation is the best course. You may agree/disagree with that, I'm just pointing out that the discussion has been had (and is essentially over) in quite a few places.

EDIT: Also, I absolutely agree, fwiw. If the discussion hasn't been had in your country, please do push for it.

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Re:NYC Paid McKinsey $27.5M to Stem Jail Violence. Instead, ... by danielscrubs on Sunday November 29, 2020 @02:13PM (#25247210)

Well it’s not surprising. Prison is basically a school for criminals on how to become even better at being criminals. Our Scandinavian politicians are almost solely focused on the number off how likely a person is to commit a crime after a prison sentence has been fulfilled, and our stats say that criminals become worse, so they shorten the prison sentence more and more.

The prison system is broken because hanging around with morally broken people is not good for anyone.

Let me point out that prison sentences for minor drug offenses are quite rare so we don’t have much of that particular problem.

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Re:NYC Paid McKinsey $27.5M to Stem Jail Violence. Instead, ... by pstuart on Sunday November 29, 2020 @02:18PM (#25247260)

The War on Drugs was literally designed to create more criminals -- and only in that has it been successful.

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Re:NYC Paid McKinsey $27.5M to Stem Jail Violence. Instead, ... by lawnchair_larry on Sunday November 29, 2020 @03:49PM (#25247948)

No, it was designed to reduce crime and drug availability. Nobody would design a program with the goal of creating more crime.

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Re:NYC Paid McKinsey $27.5M to Stem Jail Violence. Instead, ... by pstuart on Sunday November 29, 2020 @08:03PM (#25249717)

There's plenty of evidence out there that refutes your assumption (happy to provide it if you're interested).

It's not that they wanted more crime -- they wanted criminalized behavior to wield as a weapon against people of color (and hippies, in Nixon's case).

If it was ever about reducing harm from drugs there's plenty of better ways to do that, don't you think?

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Re:NYC Paid McKinsey $27.5M to Stem Jail Violence. Instead, ... by pstuart on Sunday November 29, 2020 @02:04PM (#25247158)

Sorry, I pulled an americanism and had the US primarily in mind :-). Scandiwegia is a lovely exception and should be rightfully proud of that.

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Re:NYC Paid McKinsey $27.5M to Stem Jail Violence. Instead, ... by Quekid5 on Sunday November 29, 2020 @02:21PM (#25247288)

No worries :).

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Re:NYC Paid McKinsey $27.5M to Stem Jail Violence. Instead, ... by ant6n on Sunday November 29, 2020 @02:53PM (#25247547)

Wtf is Scandiwegia?

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Re:NYC Paid McKinsey $27.5M to Stem Jail Violence. Instead, ... by pstuart on Sunday November 29, 2020 @03:46PM (#25247933)

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Scandiwegian

First time I've heard of it as well. I like it.

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Re:NYC Paid McKinsey $27.5M to Stem Jail Violence. Instead, ... by ant6n on Sunday November 29, 2020 @04:00PM (#25248041)

Last I checked Norwegia is part of Scandinavia (??)

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Re:NYC Paid McKinsey $27.5M to Stem Jail Violence. Instead, ... by ant6n on Sunday November 29, 2020 @06:32PM (#25249135)

(I mean Norway)

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