Re:Melting ice patch in Norway reveals large collection of a...
by OpticalWindows on Saturday November 28, 2020 @11:24PM
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This photo is rather alarming
https://twitter.com/ZLabe/status/1320024088954294275/photo/1
Re:Melting ice patch in Norway reveals large collection of a...
by penteract on Sunday November 29, 2020 @02:55AM
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The more recent graphs https://sites.uci.edu/zlabe/arctic-sea-ice-extentconcentrati... (linked to in that tweet) look less immediately alarming (this year is no longer an outlier), but the general trend is still perfectly clear.
Re:Melting ice patch in Norway reveals large collection of a...
by halfdan on Sunday November 29, 2020 @04:06AM
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Two standard deviations from the mean is an outlier.
Re:Melting ice patch in Norway reveals large collection of a...
by penteract on Sunday November 29, 2020 @04:25AM
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It's an outlier if you assume nothing's changing, but there are better ways to say that sea ice is generally shrinking than by pointing out that the current year is an outlier.
I meant that it doesn't look like an outlier if you assume arctic sea ice is decreasing (linearly?) over time (it does look like an outlier even there if you focus on October 24th).
Re:Melting ice patch in Norway reveals large collection of a...
by k33n on Sunday November 29, 2020 @08:47AM
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Nothing to be alarmed about. We are but passengers on this great planet. 10,000 years is nothing.
Re:Melting ice patch in Norway reveals large collection of a...
by Ekaros on Sunday November 29, 2020 @10:14AM
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The planet will still be here in immediate future. Ofc in short term it will be eventually gone due to sun engulfing it.
Re:Melting ice patch in Norway reveals large collection of a...
by x86_64Ubuntu on Sunday November 29, 2020 @12:25PM
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How is there nothing to be alarmed about when the cause of the ice retreating is anthropogenic?
Re:Melting ice patch in Norway reveals large collection of a...
by k33n on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @10:44AM
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And then everyone clapped
Re:Melting ice patch in Norway reveals large collection of a...
by ornornor on Sunday November 29, 2020 @01:53AM
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Nah we all know global warming is a hoax. /s
Re:Melting ice patch in Norway reveals large collection of a...
by raarts on Sunday November 29, 2020 @04:08AM
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Sure, but we now can say with certainty that 2020 isn't the hottest year on record for that particular region.
Re:Melting ice patch in Norway reveals large collection of a...
by sbeller on Sunday November 29, 2020 @12:35AM
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Just an exponential function showing its true colors, not sure what is alarming here. /s
Re:Melting ice patch in Norway reveals large collection of a...
by JoeAltmaier on Sunday November 29, 2020 @07:17AM
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Hasn't done this for 6000 years. Its doing things like this everywhere. So while one data point can be thought of as 'normal' or 'just how an exponential function works', a global phenomenon is damning. We're in a very fast, very abrupt warming time. Nothing like any historical period. Not explainable as normal variation.
Re:Melting ice patch in Norway reveals large collection of a...
by lumberingjack on Sunday November 29, 2020 @02:11AM
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Sweet giant plants and firestorms that cover the planet making more coal for future generations.
Re:Melting ice patch in Norway reveals large collection of a...
by TeMPOraL on Sunday November 29, 2020 @02:43AM
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They don't, though; firestorms are the opposite of what you want for coal generation.
Re:Melting ice patch in Norway reveals large collection of a...
by jamiek88 on Sunday November 29, 2020 @02:52AM
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Also coal was made in the Carboniferous when there were no wood eating microbes. The lack of creatures digesting wood is gave us coal.
So...no. No silver lining. Or at least not that one.
Re:Melting ice patch in Norway reveals large collection of a...
by Tuna-Fish on Sunday November 29, 2020 @09:52AM
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Most of our coal reserves were deposited as charcoal, after a firestorm.
Re:Melting ice patch in Norway reveals large collection of a...
by 8bitsrule on Sunday November 29, 2020 @02:21AM
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This PDF [0] has vg shots of several arrows. (See fig. 4) (I'm not surprised at straight shafts from 700CE. But F166 (fig. 4b) from 3980-3830calBP is birch (Table 1) - and surprisingly regular.)
"The Langfonne paper is open access and can be downloaded here:" ( t.co/zd5lwds8Wz points to ) =>
[0]https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/095968362097277...
Official website: https://secretsoftheice.com/news/2020/11/25/prehistoric-arro...
It's called Secrets of the Ice and is at https://twitter.com/brearkeologi
Their main website is https://secretsoftheice.com/
And their own article about these finds has more information and more pictures and is probably a better source if you're interested in this: https://secretsoftheice.com/news/2020/11/25/prehistoric-arro...