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Re:Iran’s Top Nuclear Scientist Killed in Attack by mytailorisrich on Friday November 27, 2020 @12:48PM (#25230856)
Oxford Dictionary's definition of terrorism:

the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

From Iran's perspective this is terrorism. From the US/Israel's that is probably not simply because I believe that there's probably a lawful mechanism for these governments to carry out this sort of action on foreign soil. For them it's "raison d'Etat".

Re:Iran’s Top Nuclear Scientist Killed in Attack by throwaway894345 on Friday November 27, 2020 @01:17PM (#25231218)
A couple issues with your interpretation:

* Israel isn't subject to Iranian jurisdiction, so it can't be "illegal", at least not meaningfully. In other words, if we don't account for jurisdiction then any international conflict could be considered "terrorism", which doesn't pass a common sense test.

* The Oxford definition stipulates "and intimidation", not "or intimidation". There's no indication that the aggressor's intent was to intimidate (rather, if they wanted to intimidate, they would have attacked the target's family or otherwise not been so surgical).

Re:Iran’s Top Nuclear Scientist Killed in Attack by mytailorisrich on Friday November 27, 2020 @01:36PM (#25231409)
I didn't imply that Israel/US was subject to Iranian jurisdiction (not least because countries are sovereign). I wrote that it was probably legal (at least within specific boundaries) for the Israeli/US governments to approve such actions on foreign soil, which are after all one of the raison d'etre of the CIA and Mossad. But of course the operatives in Iran did commit murder under Iranian law and they were subject to that jurisdiction.

It's always a question of perspective.

Regarding your second point, there is obviously a part of intimidation in doing something like that. It's even mentioned explicitly off the record in the article:

"But some American officials argued that the death of Mr. Fakhrizadeh, the latest in a string of such mysterious killings of Iran’s top nuclear scientists, would send a chilling message to the country’s other top scientists working on that program: If we can get him, we can get you, too."

'Terrorism' is a term always used against others, the bad guys. We are the good guys we never do that. Some people have bought this line so much that it's difficult to accept that everyone does terrorism to a varying degree, at least certainly from the perspective of those on the receiving end.

Re:Iran’s Top Nuclear Scientist Killed in Attack by ClumsyPilot on Friday November 27, 2020 @01:34PM (#25231392)
- "Israel isn't subject to Iranian jurisdiction, so it can't be "illegal"

What kind of logic is that? By then logic is it legal for Russian mercenaries to break into your house?

It's illegal in the same way 9/11 was illegal - purposefully targetting civillians is a breach of international law, and, of laws and customs of war. It is not onyl about laws of the host country where attack happens.

The argument that he was warking on a military project could apply if there was an official declaration of war, but that isn't the case.

Re:Iran’s Top Nuclear Scientist Killed in Attack by dragonwriter on Friday November 27, 2020 @01:40PM (#25231438)
> Israel isn't subject to Iranian jurisdiction

The nature of sovereignty is that sovereign jurisdiction has only those territorial limits that the sovereign chooses; extraterritorial jurisdiction in law is common as is it's practical exercise.

More to the point, Israeli agents acting on Iranian territory are subject to Iranian jurisdiction without extraterritorial jurisdiction entering the picture.

> any international conflict could be considered "terrorism"

The proper crime is “aggression”, and, yes, almost every international conflict involves that on at least one side. (You can construct artificial scenarios where there is a plausible argument that both sides are exercising legitimate response to an apparent imminent threat, but they don't tend to arise in reality.)

Re:Iran’s Top Nuclear Scientist Killed in Attack by jjgreen on Friday November 27, 2020 @01:42PM (#25231463)
You don't think this is intended to intimidate others who would work on nuclear weapons?
Re:Iran’s Top Nuclear Scientist Killed in Attack by abnry on Friday November 27, 2020 @12:55PM (#25230942)
Is a scientist working on a nuclear bomb a civilian? In the strict sense, yes, but it is very close to not being one.
Re:Iran’s Top Nuclear Scientist Killed in Attack by whimsicalism on Friday November 27, 2020 @01:23PM (#25231286)
Is a computer scientist working on AWS a civilian? The DoD uses AWS.
Re:Iran’s Top Nuclear Scientist Killed in Attack by abnry on Friday November 27, 2020 @02:17PM (#25231736)
A scientist leading the project of constructing a massive weapon does not compare to a scientist working as part of a cog in the wheel on a service that is used both by the government and other companies that is not related to weapon construction any more than a screw driver is related to weapon construction.
Re:Iran’s Top Nuclear Scientist Killed in Attack by e12e on Friday November 27, 2020 @01:21PM (#25231267)
From tfa:

> But some American officials argued that the death of Mr. Fakhrizadeh, the latest in a string of such mysterious killings of Iran’s top nuclear scientists, would send a chilling message to the country’s other top scientists working on that program: If we can get him, we can get you, too.