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Re:Ad block and you don't stop by bzb6 on Monday November 23, 2020 @12:22PM (#25189097)
> Who will win, a multibillion dollar industry or a couple of txt files?

I don’t want to read the whole thing because I don’t care too much, so I may be a little bit off topic here, but afaik nobody has managed to block Facebook’s sponsored posts with these lists.

Re:Ad block and you don't stop by everdrive on Monday November 23, 2020 @12:59PM (#25189556)
It's very easy to block them: don't visit facebook, and you'll never see the ads.
Re:Ad block and you don't stop by MeinBlutIstBlau on Monday November 23, 2020 @01:54PM (#25190206)
Messenger is the best thing facebook has done imo. Since facebook is like a driver's license atm, you can be certain other people use it and having a chat client tied to it is very nice to have.

I know we all like to rip on them but at least it's better than WhatsApp or discord where someone has to actively create and account and learn the platform before using it.

Re:Ad block and you don't stop by saagarjha on Monday November 23, 2020 @06:41PM (#25193308)
> Since facebook is like a driver's license atm, you can be certain other people use it and having a chat client tied to it is very nice to have.

This is an unfortunate situation to be in.

Re:Ad block and you don't stop by MeinBlutIstBlau on Monday November 23, 2020 @08:45PM (#25194326)
I agree but fighting against a culturally accepted standard isn't the issue. It's what everyone uses. Thinking it's not as private as IRC doesn't change the fact that it's easier to get on facebook than it is IRC.
Re:Ad block and you don't stop by paulryanrogers on Monday November 23, 2020 @01:25PM (#25189843)
Certainly an effective strategy which most would call boycott. Blocking ads implies consuming the content without the ads.
Re:Ad block and you don't stop by SllX on Monday November 23, 2020 @01:44PM (#25190078)
Boycott implies some form of coordination that’s more than just rejecting the premise and/or use of Facebook.
Re:Ad block and you don't stop by thomastjeffery on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @01:24AM (#25195868)
That's "avoid", not "block".
Re:Ad block and you don't stop by GeekFortyTwo on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:10PM (#25190415)
I had recently noticed this was starting to drive me nuts as I block a lot of other in my day to day life and facebook has been getting through.

Went looking for a paid option on Facebook to remove ads, like youtube premium which I enjoy, but they are very much against doing this. I guess when your entire organization becomes about selling ads, the team that wants to just make money directly gets shouted down.

Re:Ad block and you don't stop by jsheard on Monday November 23, 2020 @01:10PM (#25189684)
Twitch has also been successful at bypassing adblockers over the last few months
Re:Ad block and you don't stop by artvark11 on Monday November 23, 2020 @01:41PM (#25190038)
Only if you use their website. It's invested with ads and tracking. You can use a desktop client to play the stream in a native player and irc for the chat.

https://streamlink.github.io/streamlink-twitch-gui/

Re:Ad block and you don't stop by regecks on Monday November 23, 2020 @05:06PM (#25192514)
Not really. Twitch has been sending in-m3u8-playlist ad segments to clients like Streamlink for long a while now.

Streamlink's workaround is to avoid playing pre-roll ads by sniffing for SCTE35 segments in the playlist.

However, you can't just seamlessly skip ads. Twitch's servers won't send you the next segments of the actual stream until an appropriate amount of time has passed. What's an adblocker to do in that case? Show a blank screen?

If Twitch wanted to squash adblocking entirely, they could so easily do it.

Re:Ad block and you don't stop by gruez on Monday November 23, 2020 @05:23PM (#25192661)
>Show a blank screen?

yes? Isn't that what people did back then? eg. live sporting event, when the ads came on you went to go get snacks or the toilet. It's not ideal but it's still better than having commercial messages blasted into your consciousness.

Re:Ad block and you don't stop by tartoran on Monday November 23, 2020 @06:36PM (#25193270)
Yep. That would be perfect time to reflect if you want to continue watching whatever you were watching, mediate or take a snack break or take the boiling water off the stove and throw some tea leaves in it or you name it.
Re:Ad block and you don't stop by wayneftw on Monday November 23, 2020 @01:50PM (#25190153)
They will never be successful with me. As soon as I see a pre-roll ad on Twitch I close the tab. Then I search for how to get around it and typically update uBlock Origin. Recently this happened regularly for about 2 weeks and then it stopped.

If they ever succeed I’ll just go elsewhere. I’m not spending one minute of my time getting brainwashed by ads.

I’ve also stopped Chrome from auto updating in anticipation of Google enforcing Manifest v3, which will cause uBlock Origin to break. That should give me enough time to figure out my next move.

This is a fun game for me :)

Re:Ad block and you don't stop by akersten on Monday November 23, 2020 @04:56PM (#25192428)
Instead of maintaining an out of date Chrome once that change rolls around, why not switch to Firefox?
Re:Ad block and you don't stop by wayneftw on Monday November 23, 2020 @07:32PM (#25193759)
I trust Mozilla way less than Google. They've never pulled a Mr. Robot (3rd party advertisement integration) or a Pocket (forced 3rd party extension integration) on me like Mozilla has. There are way more eyeballs on Google, so if they do something that I don't like - I'll know about it and how to fix it or work around it. I also don't like Mozilla's culture of political ideology at all. Finally, they had the swing vote for getting rid of WebSQL and they pushed that freaking piece of crap IndexedDB instead (among other bad decisions).

Beyond that, there are lots of things about Firefox that just annoy me. Off the top of my head - The search box being on the bottom and taking up the whole horizontal width of the view box, the inconsistent menus (context menu sub-menus fly out on hover, the program menu sub-menus do not), the boxy design and the native title bar which results in less vertical space. They only thing I'd want from Firefox would be containers - but I just use separate Chrome profiles to get the same effect.

I'm also a developer and I vastly prefer to use, test with and develop against something from the Chromium/Blink/WebKit lineage over Gecko. I want a mono-culture and to that end, I basically only test with Chrome and Safari. Everybody else can either keep up or die (or fork Chromium, customize it and maintain that). There's absolutely no problem with every Linux distro using the Linux kernel mono-culture, so why would there be a problem with a common browser engine/infrastructure mono-culture?

If I have to switch, I'd much rather go with something like Vivaldi or Brave. I doubt it will come to that though as I will probably only have to pause Chrome updates for a brief time while new extensions come out to keep blocking ads. The Manifest v3 limitation is in the number of rules (30k per extension) so I bet that each filter-list will just be it's own extension. There is no limitation on cosmetic filtering via injected JS.

Re:Ad block and you don't stop by drenvuk on Monday November 23, 2020 @01:34PM (#25189948)
Nah, we're winning now.
Re:Ad block and you don't stop by jsheard on Monday November 23, 2020 @01:39PM (#25190011)
What's the current workaround? uBlock Origin isn't working for me and the earlier userscripts I saw were broken by Twitch
Re:Ad block and you don't stop by rasz on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @05:17AM (#25197095)
First was uBlock scriptlet patching window.fetch and replacing player_type=site with twitch_everywhere, facebook, embed, thunderdome, animated_thumbnails, dashboard. Every time took couple of days for twitch to patch it, including just saying fuck it and starting to play prerolls in the dashboard. Then extension .on webRequest.onBeforeSendHeaders to override user-agent

    Googlebot
    Mediapartners-Google
    LinkedInBot/1.0 (compatible; Mozilla/5.0; Apache-HttpClient +http://www.linkedin.com)
those also no longer work. Then someone discovered there arent any ads in the embeds so someone else wrote userscript replacing Video element with embed ;-) and finally we are back to patching webRequest to spoof being an embed.

All this cat and mouse will go away as soon as Chrome V3 manifest lands and kills blocking webRequest, because privacy or something (V3 still lets you spy on all webRequests, just not override them ...) :/

Re:Ad block and you don't stop by sseagull on Monday November 23, 2020 @12:56PM (#25189511)
I have managed to block them with some filters & ublock origin. At least for now.

Reading posts on r/uBlockOrigin, there seem to be multiple versions of facebook, and what works for some doesn't work for others.

I don't use facebook too often, but if adblock really stops working, I will completely abandon it. Before I found the correct filters, my usage did drop, since every other post (literally) was an ad.

Re:Ad block and you don't stop by lakkal on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @10:26AM (#25199276)
I don't spend much time on Facebook, but I use a Firefox extension from here: https://www.fbpurity.com/ which lets you get rid of (hide) a lot of the junk, including sponsored stuff. It would be unbearable for me otherwise.
Re:Ad block and you don't stop by lostmsu on Monday November 23, 2020 @01:22PM (#25189814)
Yeah, I have a separate extension just for Facebook. And also a separate browser profile.