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Re:PC Life After Apple Silicon by Traster on Monday November 23, 2020 @07:17AM (#25185920)
This entire article seems to work on the premise that Arm chips and Apple silicon are the same thing. This is demonstrably not the case though. Apple silicon seemingly trounces other phone silicon. It's not like Arm chips are going to come to PC and perform like the M1, they're going to come to the PC and perform like Samsung's smart phones.

As a weird sidenote to this: Whilst I was looking up the benchmarks of the iPhone I found out that basically every single tech mag is owned by the exact same company - you can tell because they all have the same adblocker nagware.

Re:PC Life After Apple Silicon by izacus on Monday November 23, 2020 @07:29AM (#25186033)
> This entire article seems to work on the premise that Arm chips and Apple silicon are the same thing. This is demonstrably not the case though. Apple silicon seemingly trounces other phone silicon. It's not like Arm chips are going to come to PC and perform like the M1, they're going to come to the PC and perform like Samsung's smart phones.

Yup, and it assumes that all x86-64 chips will behave like Intels obsolete architecture right after AMD has shown pretty impressive IPC improvements with Zen3 as well.

It's clickbait by someone who doesn't really understand the difference between an architecture and actual designs being built.

Re:PC Life After Apple Silicon by blunte on Monday November 23, 2020 @07:42AM (#25186141)
> ... by someone who doesn't really understand the difference between ...

This is who you're talking down about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Louis_Gass%C3%A9e

Re:PC Life After Apple Silicon by izacus on Monday November 23, 2020 @07:53AM (#25186225)
Well, it seems like he failed to follow the landscape since 2000s successfully.
Re:PC Life After Apple Silicon by ubercow13 on Monday November 23, 2020 @07:57AM (#25186259)
Interesting, makes you wonder why he sounds like someone who doesn't really understand the difference between an architecture and actual designs being built.
Re:PC Life After Apple Silicon by Zenst on Monday November 23, 2020 @07:34AM (#25186077)
> It's not like Arm chips are going to come to PC and perform like the M1, they're going to come to the PC and perform like Samsung's smart phones.

Indeed, the whole aspect of comparing say an Apple flagship phone to an Android phone and you see differences that on paper would have the Android as a better experience.

What Apple has going is complete integration, from chip to board to OS. That in itself allows for much better integration and utilisation.

>As a weird sidenote to this: Whilst I was looking up the benchmarks of the iPhone I found out that basically every single tech mag is owned by the exact same company - you can tell because they all have the same adblocker nagware.

Not sure I'd read that far into that, maybe some company did a good nagware and sold/open sourced to all those sites. Though still, if the salient points still the same with different wording, that would be telling. For me, YouTube seems to cut thru much of that, not that it don't have it's only area's of concern but does seem to get more honest takes and individual opinions more.

Re:PC Life After Apple Silicon by Traster on Monday November 23, 2020 @01:01PM (#25189581)
No, I literally mean I looked it up: I googled "iphone 12 performance benchmark" and got: Tomsguide, laptopmag, t3 and Tech Radar. What is the point of Google if the front page is going to be full of the same article reworded repeatedly by the same company under different brands.
Re:PC Life After Apple Silicon by Zenst on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:19PM (#25190540)
Yeah I did some digging and Toms.... has a sister company Tech Radar, so probably is the case with many and some big company borged all these sites over time, kinda same as News papers and owners was/is.
Re:PC Life After Apple Silicon by mschuster91 on Monday November 23, 2020 @07:36AM (#25186091)
> As a weird sidenote to this: Whilst I was looking up the benchmarks of the iPhone I found out that basically every single tech mag is owned by the exact same company - you can tell because they all have the same adblocker nagware.

This nagware is available as a service now (CMP, short for "Consent Management Provider/Platform"). Popular examples (out of what I remember from an evaluation some time ago) are TrustArc (used e.g. by Oracle), consentmanager.de (lots of German media) and Usercentrics.

Re:PC Life After Apple Silicon by nix23 on Monday November 23, 2020 @07:26AM (#25185999)
>they're going to come to the PC and perform like Samsung's smart phones.

Sounds like Apple cooks (pun intended) with magic, and not with water, Graviton? Ampere?

Re:PC Life After Apple Silicon by woadwarrior01 on Monday November 23, 2020 @07:30AM (#25186044)
> As a weird sidenote to this: Whilst I was looking up the benchmarks of the iPhone I found out that basically every single tech mag is owned by the exact same company - you can tell because they all have the same adblocker nagware.

OT: I’ve been using a pi-hole for about a year now and adblockers for much longer. The pi-hole combined with ublock origin seems to cover a lot more than what ublock origin alone did.