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Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by quietbritishjim on Friday November 20, 2020 @04:40AM (#25158867)
> > Inspired by historical events and characters, this work of fiction was designed, developed, and produced by a multicultural team of various beliefs, sexual orientations and gender identities.

> This statement is making ... implicit [claims] (our diverse team means this game was produced in a careful, sensitive way)

Ah, I think that's a misunderstanding of why the statement is there. It's not to claim that the game is therefore produced in a careful way. Certainly not an accurate way! It's just saying you shouldn't take offense at any details in it (accurate or not). Like, "we probably had someone with the same ethnicity/religion/gender as you and they were fine with it". It's fall out from the original being set in Palestine, which they called "The Kingdom" in an attempt to bypass offense.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by enkid on Friday November 20, 2020 @07:41AM (#25159868)
Having someone with an ethnicity present while making something offensive isn't a great defense for the offensive thing.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by awakeasleep on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:37PM (#25163408)
Someone with the authority to speak for your identity groups took part in the drafting of the quoted defense, and they were fine with it.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by quietbritishjim on Friday November 20, 2020 @09:49AM (#25160916)
I absolutely agree with that! I was just presenting what I presume was the company's defense.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by Bishonen88 on Friday November 20, 2020 @08:04AM (#25160054)
No, but it's still better than not having such a person around at all.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by veddox on Friday November 20, 2020 @08:33AM (#25160263)
I find the two pretty orthogonal...
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by clankyclanker on Friday November 20, 2020 @08:45AM (#25160362)
Exactly. The statement is designed to be a meaningless deflection, a mental “nothing to see here, move along,” for cultural awareness.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by ethbr0 on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:02PM (#25163040)
How so? Presumably an individual from a specific background is more likely to be able to evaluate slights against that background, vs a random individual.

Individual experiences vary, but it's a helluva better start than... you know... not.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by boomboomsubban on Friday November 20, 2020 @06:54PM (#25166591)
They may be better than a random individual, but they will be surrounded by their superiors who don't understand or necessarily respect their point of view. Imagine having a meeting with ten people mostly above your rank psyched about an idea and you have to start the argument that it's inappropriate. Now imagine needing to do that every day.

Even with everyone involved having the best intentions, that task seems doomed to fail.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by Dirlewanger on Friday November 20, 2020 @02:25PM (#25163903)
Because it's complete nonsense.

With this logic, I can make a game about the Belgians colonized the Congo, leave out all that business about slaves on plantations, maiming said slaves on plantations for not meeting their quotas etc., portray the Belgians as magnanimous bringers of culture, and then say "oh, well, we had British people involved in the making of the game so it's OK"

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by ethbr0 on Friday November 20, 2020 @06:49PM (#25166557)
> "... so it's OK"

Did they say that?

Regardless of the end product, I'd rather support something that had the involvement of some of the subgroups involved that are depicted in the media, than support something that had the involvment of none.

We can debate up and down on the relative efficiency and whether there's a better way to achieve informed representation.

But I think it's a stretch to say involving more diverse viewpoints is worse than not.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by zentiggr on Friday November 20, 2020 @04:03PM (#25164911)
I think the closer parallel to the game opening text would be if Congolese residents were involved?
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by bluGill on Friday November 20, 2020 @08:29AM (#25160233)
Considering the anti-christian tone of the game I think they were completely missing Christians. (I haven't played the game, so I'm taking the article's word on how it portrays Christians as fact, which might or might not be true) You cannot claim diversity if you are missing a faction - even if the faction is one you consider against your beliefs.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by throwaway894345 on Friday November 20, 2020 @09:31AM (#25160731)
In light of the parent comment, we should presume that the team had Christian representation and those Christians were fine with it, not that there were no Christians. There’s a lot of media that uses caricatures to vilify Christians (“Easy A” comes to mind), but there is relatively little uproar from Christians about it. They don’t seem to be very sensitive apart from a small handful that our society cherry-picks as the basis for our stereotypes (e.g., the Starbucks Christmas cup fiasco was literally one guy and Buzzfeed ran that story like it was a nationwide Christian movement).
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by gwd on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:02PM (#25163039)
Let's try your formulation in a different context and see if it works. Imagine someone saying this in the '50s:

> There's a lot of media that uses caricatures to vilify [Blacks], but there is relatively little uproar from [Blacks] about it. They don't seem to be very sensitive apart from a small handful...

I assure you, Christians are aware of how poorly they're portrayed by the media, and aren't happy about it. It seems to me that this is one of many factors that led many Christians to support Trump.

"Representation matters" -- indeed it does; and I'm not sure I've seen anyone on TV or in movies that looks like me or the people in my church. Even when they're trying to put people in a positive light, you can tell that it's someone trying to guess what it's like from the outside, not someone who understands it from the inside.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by teachrdan on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:30PM (#25163331)
The actual lived conditions matter, too. In the 1950s, Black Americans were harassed, beaten and killed for registering to vote; no such discrimination against Christians has ever existed in the US, or even in North America or Europe, where the games we're talking about are largely developed and marketed.

I agree that Christians are sometimes treated more critically in popular culture. But this is simply criticizing those in positions of power. It's hard to argue that ethnic or other minorities enjoy those levels of power in any of the places these games are made or marketed.

To quote a certain comedian: "Christians won the world. The Christians won everything. If you don't believe me, let me ask you a question. What year is it?"

https://vimeo.com/215910765

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by throwaway894345 on Friday November 20, 2020 @02:34PM (#25163987)
> The actual lived conditions matter, too. In the 1950s, Black Americans were harassed, beaten and killed for registering to vote; no such discrimination against Christians has ever existed in the US, or even in North America or Europe, where the games we're talking about are largely developed and marketed.

I quite agree. There can be no meaningful comparison between Blacks in the 50's and Christians in recent history.

> no such discrimination against Christians has ever existed in ... Europe

Well, it hasn't for a very long time, but it was pretty bad for quite a while: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_t...

Mostly I share this as an interesting historical tidbit; not to refute any of your points.

> I agree that Christians are sometimes treated more critically in popular culture. But this is simply criticizing those in positions of power.

Of course, like all groups (be they religious, racial, ethnic, gender, etc), Christians are incredibly diverse such that there are no real criticisms that generalizes well, and all of these criticisms depend on caricature and stereotype which are (by definition) inaccurate and hateful. Moreover, to target a group for being "powerful" when that power is merely "numerousness in a democracratic context"--without any sort of evidence that the group behaves as a class, conspiring to increase or preserve the power of the group and to distribute that power throughout the group (to give privileges to constituents merely for being part of the group)--is lazy at best and hateful at worst (theories of a Jewish conspiracies spring to mind).

> To quote a certain comedian: "Christians won the world. The Christians won everything. If you don't believe me, let me ask you a question. What year is it?"

Maybe this is an amusing joke, but I don't think it supports your point very well. Lots of different cultures have given us different conventions and standards. We tell time using a Babylonian counting system, but we wouldn't say "Babylonians won the world". Similarly, we use a semitic alphabet but we wouldn't say "Semites won the world". We use Arabic numerals but we wouldn't say Arabs won the world. I could go on and on and on.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by bigbubba on Friday November 20, 2020 @04:31PM (#25165243)
Germanic paganism won. Don't believe me? Let me ask you, what day of the week is it?
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by coredog64 on Friday November 20, 2020 @02:16PM (#25163828)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_conquest_of_Hispania

Or, if we want more recent history, the Bosnian war or even the currently ongoing dispute between Armenia and Azerbaijan.

If you squint, you might even be able to include sect-on-sect violence which seems like several hundred years of European history, to the point that a group of religious practitioners crossed an ocean to escape it.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by mcphage on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:34PM (#25163368)
> I assure you, Christians are aware of how poorly they're portrayed by the media, and aren't happy about it. It seems to me that this is one of many factors that led many Christians to support Trump.

"I don't like how I'm portrayed, so I'll validate their criticisms through my actions" doesn't seem the best solution. If they don't like their portrayal, it seems they would be better off to make the portrayal better instead of making themselves worse.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by throwaway894345 on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:35PM (#25164645)
People lash out at their bullies for catharsis, not for prudence. In any case, Christians are very charitable people by any metric, and that didn't spare them any bullying or earn them any favor, so why be surprised when some people behave according to the incentive structure we put around them? It's also worth noting that Christians as a collective didn't vote for Trump, rather they were pretty evenly split.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by mcphage on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:58PM (#25164856)
> so why be surprised when some people behave according to the incentive structure we put around them?

I guess a basic level of self-respect? It's one thing to be criticized, but one could say "that's not who I am". And it's not like Jesus didn't warn them they'd be prosecuted for him; there are many, many verses about this very thing. But once they start performing destructive behaviors themselves, suddenly: that is who they are.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by throwaway894345 on Friday November 20, 2020 @04:24PM (#25165155)
Jesus also said there would be a lot of people who called themselves Christian but few who actually lived the life. As far as political polls go, they are happy to consider anyone a Christian irrespective of whether they practice any of the traditions or aspire toward the ethics, so we probably shouldn't expect generalizations about "Christians" to be very useful or intuitive. Anyway, I try not to criticize the bullied for how they manifest their scars--it doesn't help them and anyone whose opinion matters is only going to think less of me for it.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by mcphage on Friday November 20, 2020 @06:10PM (#25166240)
I’m not aware of any tests that distinguish “true” Christians from those merely claiming to be Christians.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by throwaway894345 on Friday November 20, 2020 @09:33PM (#25167472)
I’m just saying that you oughtn’t be surprised that a lot of “Christians” don’t exhibit the ethics when you define “Christian” in such a way that it includes people who don’t try to adhere to the ethics.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by mcphage on Sunday November 22, 2020 @09:23AM (#25177652)
> when you define “Christian” in such a way that it includes people who don’t try to adhere to the ethics.

There is no other way to define “Christian”.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by throwaway894345 on Sunday November 22, 2020 @01:09PM (#25179525)
Of course there is. The obvious counter example is "people who try to adhere to the ethics". But that's hardly important, the important thing is that you now understand why "Christians" don't behave according to Christian ethics--notably because you're defining "Christians" in such a way that it includes a lot of people who don't practice Christian ethics. Mystery solved.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by gwd on Friday November 20, 2020 @04:10PM (#25164985)
> "I don't like how I'm portrayed, so I'll validate their criticisms through my actions" doesn't seem the best solution. If they don't like their portrayal, it seems they would be better off to make the portrayal better instead of making themselves worse.

You're preaching to the choir, as they say. :-) I think Evangelical support for Trump is incredibly foolish for a number of reasons.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by throwaway894345 on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:38PM (#25163420)
> Let's try your formulation in a different context and see if it works. Imagine someone saying this in the '50s

There are a number of enormous, relevant differences between these two groups, but more importantly I don't see any good, enlightening dialog coming out of a comparison between the plights of Jim Crow era Blacks and anyone else. It's like the converse of Godwin's Law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law).

> I assure you, Christians are aware of how poorly they're portrayed by the media, and aren't happy about it. It seems to me that this is one of many factors that led many Christians to support Trump.

I don't think they're "happy" about it, per se, but rather they're not offended enough to object publicly to it. And to be clear, I'm merely observing that Christians aren't as offended (or don't express offense as much) as I think other groups would be. I'm leaving it up to the readers to interpret this as thick-skin or weak-will or something else (I'm certainly not intending to imply any particular interpretation).

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by mike_d on Friday November 20, 2020 @02:02PM (#25163687)
> Christians are aware of how poorly they're portrayed by the media, and aren't happy about it. It seems to me that this is one of many factors that led many Christians to support Trump.

Christians are facing the same problem Muslims had to face post 9/11. Some of the people in your religion are so absolutely terrible you become hated as a whole for it. Is that fair or right? Of course not. But like any other community with rotten apples, you need to work on shunning and expelling these people... not voting for them.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by throwaway894345 on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:20PM (#25164511)
I don't know what good can come from comparing Christian "bad apples" (presumably the 'judgmental hypocrite' caricature) to brutal mass murderers. Similarly, this reads like you're suggesting Christians are uniquely bad at shunning/expelling their "bad apples" or perhaps that they are unique in that they are actively voting them into some office, and perhaps even suggesting that this discrepancy justifies their mistreatment:

> But like any other community with rotten apples, you need to work on shunning and expelling these people... not voting for them.

I'm sure you didn't mean any of those things, but it might be good to clarify.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by dragonwriter on Friday November 20, 2020 @10:20PM (#25167647)
> I assure you, Christians are aware of how poorly they're portrayed by the media, and aren't happy about it

I assure you that Christians are not, as a rule, unfavorably portrayed in the media, and many Christians are excessively tired of those members of the single most favored, and socially and politically powerful, subset of America's dominant religion pretending to be persecuted whenever they experience the slightest criticism or restriction in imposing their ideology on others.

> It seems to me that this is one of many factors that led many Christians to support Trump.

Probably not significantly; it's more likely the reason that white evangelical protestants overwhelmingly supported Trump and white Catholics and white non-evangelical protestants also did so, though less overwhelmingly (whereas Hispanic Catholics supported, and Black evangelical protestants overwhelmingly supported, Biden) is that white Christians consistently have more to do with the correlation between views on race and religious affiliation. It's perhaps telling that the share of White Evangelical Protestant (78%) and, White non-evangelical Protestants (52%), and White Catholics (53%) that supported Trump (in an October survey, [0]) are very similar to the share of each (72%, 56%, and 53%, respectively, in an August survey [1]) that believed “police killings of Black men are isolated incidents”.

[0] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/10/13/white-chris...

[1] https://www.prri.org/research/racial-justice-2020-george-flo...

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by strictnein on Friday November 20, 2020 @12:15PM (#25162514)
The Assassin's Creed series has had a very anti-Christian and anti-Religion tone from the very start, so it's not surprising it continued with this game.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by chmod775 on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:02PM (#25163042)
Well, for that you'd first have to find a Christian.

Christianity is a unique religion in that there's a lot of people who claim to be Christians, but who hardly practice their religion or follow what is prescribed.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by krapp on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:39PM (#25163432)
>Christianity is a unique religion in that there's a lot of people who claim to be Christians, but who hardly practice their religion or follow what is prescribed.

This isn't unique to Christianity. Hypocrisy and indolence are common facets of human nature, so they're bound to be common to the adherents of any particular religion.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by Smaug123 on Friday November 20, 2020 @02:54PM (#25164220)
There's similarly a Jewish culture that one can identify with without practicing Judaism.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by xeromal on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:16PM (#25164458)
Yeah! Jew-ish, haha. It's not unique to Christianity at all. I love using the term I learned growing up. We're a bunch of back-row baptists.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by AsyncAwait on Friday November 20, 2020 @12:35PM (#25162760)
Not sure if the game has an "anti-christian" tone, but I think in a secular society that should not be a problem, even if true.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by woko on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:03PM (#25163065)
Try replacing "christian" in your statement with "jew" or "muslism", and read it out loud.

Being "anti-christian" is an issue, because it is always an issue when a society is against a group of people.

One has the right to make fun and criticize religions, but not a large group of people, especially solely based on their traits, be it religion/faith, sexuality, etc.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by BlueTemplar on Friday November 20, 2020 @04:26PM (#25165190)
What do you do when people identify first by their religion ?

Islam is quite problematic in this aspect. AFAIK the current resurgence of political Islam stems from its very core. Maybe it could be reformed to be (durably !) compatible with a secular state, but would that reformed religion be still Islam, or would it be as different as Christianity is from Judaism ?

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by AsyncAwait on Friday November 20, 2020 @02:09PM (#25163757)
It's funny you say that because most modern FPS games are about American Christians 'taking care' of large groups of people in foreign lands, including Muslims in the Middle East, Chinese, North Koreans etc.

This is somehow fine as these are our official 'state enemies'. It is funny how the problem is when it is turned around.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by snouger on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:28PM (#25164586)
I think this is a dated comment, actually. Scifi is increasingly popular, with multiple CoDs using it, the new Prey, Titanfall/Apex, the upcoming (unless it’s delayed again) Cyberpunk, etc.

CoD and BF both went back to WWI/WWII for some releases as well.

And whatever Fortnite and Overwatch’s settings are. Kinda-cartoon kinda sci-fi?

I don’t think there as many generic modern shooters these days.

Doom is kinda sci-fi and kinda killing actual demons from hell ¯\(ツ)/¯

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by trollybaz on Friday November 20, 2020 @12:49PM (#25162899)
The article notes that if the same portrayal was done to any other religion besides Christianity, then there would probably be an uproar.

In today's society, with emphases on unconscious bias, race theory and egalitarianism, we are generally not okay with this kind of tone.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by AsyncAwait on Friday November 20, 2020 @02:10PM (#25163769)
> The article notes that if the same portrayal was done to any other religion besides Christianity, then there would probably be an uproar.

You mean like every single Call Of Duty game? Because it is in fact regularly being done.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by leetcrew on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:36PM (#25164658)
keep in mind roughly half of the call of duty games are set in WWII (or space, lol) where this religious subtext doesn't really exist.

the franchise does have you spend a lot of time killing people in the middle east, but the games don't explore religious ideology. the context clues pretty clearly point to your adversaries being jihadists and/or soldiers for a fundamentalist regime, but I don't recall the games ever explicitly saying so. in COD, terrorists blow things up simply because they are terrorists, not because they have any sort of coherent goal.

this is not to say that depictions in COD are not damaging in their own way, but they don't have anything quite so blatant as what is described in TFA.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by gwd on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:06PM (#25163095)
The author's problem with the game is, in fact, that it ends up mirroring Nazi ideology almost exactly: Manly men with superior genes and culture, looking for lebensraum, improving the effeminate, "weak" culture they're colonizing. Oops.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by AsyncAwait on Friday November 20, 2020 @02:15PM (#25163808)
This is in fact what American Exceptionalism leads to as well, frankly.

I think no religion or religious organization should be spared of critique, but realize that in the West, (Christians), have been exporting culture that's kind of about trashing other peoples.

Take a look at Call Of Duty or even something as innocent looking as Uncharted for how 'we' are treating other cultures.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by 737maxtw on Friday November 20, 2020 @02:03PM (#25163705)
Well, given the 'inspirations' that regime had, one shouldn't be surprised.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by charwalker on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:42PM (#25163465)
All characters and events in this [media type], even those based on real people, are entirely fictional.

Pretty sure all voices are impersonated as we didn't have the same recording tech about 1000 years ago.

I think you have the right idea with this claim. It's a statement of the diversity of the development team not a promise the content is perfectly PC or historically accurate to the smallest detail.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by justnotworthit on Friday November 20, 2020 @04:34PM (#25165289)
"It's ok: My best friend is black"?

It might be the author's explanation, via standpoint theory:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standpoint_theory

https://meaningoflife.tv/videos/43188

But it probably started out how you said ("Let's not anger any muslims....") and turned into something else.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by darwinwhy on Friday November 20, 2020 @08:45AM (#25160374)
I saw it as a trigger warning for the small but strangely vocal contingent of gamers who still reek at the presence of non white-male characters in video games.
Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by tclancy on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:36PM (#25163399)
I've been playing the game and was thinking last night that statement is (to me) an anachronism: it made sense in the first game where it was clearly dealing with the Middle East and choices made for the sake of a more playable game may have come across as culturally insensitive and started problems online. It felt a lot less likely people in the current world would be upset at or read deeply into the depictions of old Norse and Saxons, but it looks like I was wrong.

I would suggest, as the author seems to propose but not allow, many of the issues are there for the sake of game play: I am currently using a flail and questioning my choice every time I get whacked because the thing takes a week and a half to pull start. But it's the strongest one-handed weapon currently available to me. So it makes for interesting tradeoffs in a way "axe v sword" might not.

A similar case could be made for fudging the details about sexual equality among the old Norse. I doubt anyone is watching the game imagining Vikings were tender and considerate self-reflective modern males; it just makes the story flow better than having to watch a cut scene of 10 dudes throwing food at each other in conference.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by mwfunk on Friday November 20, 2020 @02:08PM (#25163746)
Seriously, do people not remember that this statement was first made for the first game, in 2007, at a time when so much of what was in the game could've been a political lightning rod? You're playing someone from an organization that was historically associated with Islam, going around killing Crusaders (and everyone else, but still) in the Middle East during the Middle Ages. This was the time of the 2nd Bush administration, the occupation of Iraq was still in full swing, and the news was still filled with daily fearmongering about Muslims and imminent terrorist attacks. IIRC this was still the era of the color coded terror threat levels that the DHS would issue, and that was still getting cited every day on TV nows as if it were the weather or sports scores.

Basically it was a batshit crazy collection of historical, religious, and political trivia that was used as the background for the game's narrative, but at that time there was so much potentially controversial stuff if anyone took it too seriously that it could become a marketing nightmare. Boycotts from Christian groups and/or right wing nutjobs claiming that the game would encourage children (gotta think of the children!) to become Islamic terrorists. That sort of thing. It was a complicated game to market in that atmosphere. All sorts of different groups could have latched on to it as the epitome of how video games rot kids minds and turn them violent. It doesn't require anyone to actually do anything violent, it's just fuel for a gazillion fearmongering rants for Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, etc. All they would have to do is describe the game and demonize Ubisoft for making it; instant ratings gold.

They've continued having that statement at the beginning of each game, at this point as more of a tradition I think. Once the franchise was established, and got out of the Crusades, it gradually lost its potential to be a lightning rod for politically- or religiously-motivated anti-video game criticism. Although let's not forget the later game in which you have a boss fight vs. a historical pope who ended up being the villain in that game. Considering how freaked out certain demographics got by things like The Passion of the Christ (the movie), it's not much of a stretch to imagine somebody like Glen Beck going on an anti-video game crusade (no pun intended), throwing gasoline on the fire by going on and on every night about how these evil Canadians made this evil video game where you play an assassin from an order that was historically Islamic, where you're literally sneaking in to the Vatican to kill a historical pope (albeit with non-historical superpowers). Therefore kids are being brainwashed by Ubisoft to become Islamic terrorists right before our eyes. You know, Glen Beck stuff.

So it's really always just been a marketing CYA thing to reassure everyone that the game wasn't made with any particular political/religious/historical agenda. Admittedly, "we've got Catholics therefore we're obviously not in favor of assassinating popes" and the like is the "but I've got black friends" excuse for racism, but FWIW the intention was to proactively disarm accusations of biases or hidden agendas. It was not to be some sort of diversity statement.

But of course, it goes without saying that even if it was a statement of pride in diversity (which it wasn't), WHO THE EFF CARES. People getting triggered by such things need to go back to their safe spaces on Parler or wherever. So much projection from the 8chan kids. Who cares.

Re:Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla and the Unfortunate Implications by BlueTemplar on Friday November 20, 2020 @04:45PM (#25165428)
Heh, reminds me of :

Hail Caesar! Rabbi and Priests :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJEiDRi4Itc