Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs
by dionidium on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @01:00PM
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> Ahhmm, no. Where does negotiation power stem from? Is it a skill? No.
> You can't get your salary to tripple by negotiation. Why? What is the force that doesn't allow that?
I can't triple the speed at which I can throw a baseball, either, because of physics, but it's obviously a skill I can improve relative to other throwers of baseballs.
Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs
by gtsop on Thursday November 19, 2020 @09:10AM
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That is why i explicitly said
> Yes, your attitude and negotiation skills can impact your salary but only by a bit
Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs
by woah on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @01:46PM
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Working across a lot of time zones is a huge barrier and leads to all kinds of miscommunication. You can avoid some issues by focusing on written asynchronous communication, and maybe modularizing the work so that different time zones are working on different things, but this tends to calcify and slow down a product development process.
Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs
by gtsop on Thursday November 19, 2020 @09:21AM
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Correct, but what are the long term gains/damages of a company paing half the salaries while being slowed down? That's something to be explored before we can conclude the slow down yields worse oveeall results
Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs
by golemotron on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @12:40PM
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The lesson is: don't be a commodity.
Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs
by gtsop on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @12:44PM
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Honestly interested in hearing your opinion on how to do that.
Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs
by pc86 on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @02:16PM
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Address business concerns, don't just write code. Almost anyone can write some spaghetti Java and get it to build, but most people who can do that can't operate well in a business environment dealing with executives and C-level people. If you can do both, you're no longer a commodity.
Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs
by gtsop on Thursday November 19, 2020 @09:15AM
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Even those people have specific salary ranges. They still are commodities or as the corp-speak put it: "assets". More expensive ones, for sure, but still the same rules apply. My living cost will be a hugr factor of my salary even in these positions. Speaking from experience.
However, even if that wasn't the case, even if what you say is valid, these are inherently limited jobs so it's not a solution everyone can apply.
Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs
by golemotron on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @03:17PM
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Find a niche or make one. There's no algorithm so it can be hard, but it is a strategy.
Ahhmm, no. Where does negotiation power stem from? Is it a skill? No. You are a product much like eveything else in this economy and you price is a function of how much you cost (living cost, heavily depedent on location) + supply/demand trends. Yes, your attitude and negotiation skills can impact your salary but only by a bit. You can't get your salary to tripple by negotiation. Why? What is the force that doesn't allow that? Supply and demand of other people who will do the same for less.
Thus I argue the trend will be a big decline in salaries for remote jobs in places like SF or London, but a very slight increase in salaries in places like india. The market of remote workers is going global, thus the price for this product will adjust accordingly. There will still be some variation in the salary depending on where you are, but the global min-max difference will decrease