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Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs by echelon on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @10:31AM (#25137835)
I'm certainly not pro-union in tech, but this is something that could hasten its arrival.

Just because I'm in Atlanta doesn't make me inherently worth less than my peers in SF.

Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs by jerf on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @12:06PM (#25139295)
Something everybody involved ought to understand before going too far down this road; you're not going to spread Silicon Valley prices all around the US and internationally. If you force the companies to pay a flat wage, you're going to get an averaging out at best, and nobody's going to be paid Silicon Valley's current wages.

Whether this is good or bad is beside my point, as are what other second-order effects may arise. I'm simply pointing out, "everybody in the world gets paid SV rates" simply isn't on the table. So don't go into this process expecting that outcome.

Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs by echelon on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @02:41PM (#25141425)
Hiring is still hard and top talent is rare no matter where you are in the world. It's going to take a long time before prices bottom out.

I predict wages will stratify based on what kind of company you work for, not where you live. FAAMG will still pay top dollar. Best of luck if you work doing coding for, say, the Weather Channel.

Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs by refurb on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @11:20AM (#25138575)
You’re not paid based on “worth”. You’re paid based on the intersection of how badly the company needs someone (demand) and how many people out there do what they need (supply).

If suddenly the supply expands from the Bay Area to all of the US, that changes the equation. Don’t forget that guy in Atlanta who is equally as talented as you, but willing to work for 20% less than you make.

Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs by nybble41 on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @01:38PM (#25140550)
> You’re not paid based on “worth”.

Supply and demand ultimately determine the wages, assuming the job is filled at all, but what you're "worth" to the employer does serve as an absolute upper limit on what you can expect to be paid. If no one is willing to take the job at that price then no one will be employed and the job will simply go undone.

Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs by sgift on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @12:23PM (#25139499)
One point of unions is to make sure this kind of "shopping around" for people who are sufficiently desperate is not possible for companies: You pay x or you get no one.

And that's a good thing.

Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs by jedberg on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @12:54PM (#25139935)
> Just because I'm in Atlanta doesn't make me inherently worth less than my peers in SF.

I think the mistake you are making is assuming that your salary represents your worth to the company.

Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs by ThrowawayR2 on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @10:56AM (#25138226)
> "Just because I'm in Atlanta doesn't make me inherently worth less than my peers in SF."

Should a person be charged SF prices for groceries when they're living in Atlanta because they're getting SF pay? Clearly not. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs by echelon on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @11:05AM (#25138342)
> Should a person be charged SF prices for groceries when they're living in Atlanta because they're getting SF pay?

Your reasoning makes no sense. It's a choice to live in a city that lets landlords dictate which buildings can be built. Atlanta and other cities are unconstrained for new housing development.

SF policies are a tax on its non-homeowner residents.

You shouldn't be entitled to a differential just because your city doesn't build new housing fast enough. That has no bearing on the work your employees perform.

Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs by phamilton on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @11:04AM (#25138331)
> You can't have your cake and eat it too.

You can if you have sufficient negotiating power.

Re:"Equal pay for equal work" in remote jobs by paridhi7 on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @12:32PM (#25139613)
Then, it should be fair for a person with 4 kids living in Atlanta to be paid more than someone without any kids living in SF, right? You clearly missed the entire point of the article.